Devin Willis

BBC put out data on the death rates from china. It is largely not an issue for most people but the outlook for people over 80 isnt great. However the data is probably largely skewed to already sick people who are catching this in hospitals and other care facilities. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-51674743

I understand what you can do with it but it isnt going to help most people. Most of us would be better of spending the 25k as 2 sets of shocks 4 springs and 21k in driving lessons. If you took any random driver out of the field and gave them the new hot setup and you gave Larry the std coil setup out of the book with a 4 year old car he is still going to beat them

Why on earth do you need a pulldown and data? 80% of the people have bicknells and they literally come with a setup book. If you cant run up front with that setup no amount of spending money on stupid springs and shocks is going to take you from 15th to up front. I'm pretty sure if you stuck Larry in a 2012 bicknell with 2 200s and the shocks out of the bicknell website hes still going to be better than 90% of the people out there

You know WRG group own the WOO series right?

I'm willing to bet that a w16 doesnt win in the state of florida this year

Theres no news really. Mohawk took on the airborne street stocks. I doubt theyll be open but I'd like to be wrong.

While you can probably make it happen for not a ton of money the jump is going to cost a lot in the long run. Talking to some late model guys they spend 1000 on birdcages alone. Then you're looking at a complete floor and torque arm change for the car and you're probably looking at big changes to the rest of the frame. Basically I don't know what it would cost but I would guess it may make entire chassis obsolete. Someone also brought up a good point on motors. When we hook the cars up more the motors matter more so that 13.5k w16 now gets smoked by the 25k smallblock.

Cost of a 4 link is going to be a lot more. You could spend probably 1000 on birdcages plus everything you need to go with it is going to be a lot to start out. The frames are probably going to have to change to accommodate the changes and your motor will be more important. If you buy literally everything that comes out that's the new hot thing then that's your own problem. I saw someone win a sds race on what appeared to be 10 year old afco springs judging by the lack of yellow powder coat. The bird cages are 340 from bicknell. The top mounts are 230. Left side is 300. You should already have the front springs so you need 2 or maybe 3 backs. That's 200 in springs. You're up to a grand total of 1070. I have a hard time factoring in getting shocks done becuase you're already go to be doing that over the winter. We are probably going to disagree on how many shocks you need but every successful person I've seen on coils this year isnt changing them throughout the night. 90% of people dont need a spring smasher. Sportsman guys really dont need one since you cant run spring rubbers anyway.

The cost of coils and left side really isnt that bad. The left side costs about 300 installed. Switching my car over was about 1000 to left side and coils and you could have done it for less if you wanted. Dialing in coils shouldnt be that hard for most people. I think coils are easier than bars overall and they're cheaper in the long run.

At a few of the races we went to this year we would have had 0 cars left if everyone did that. I got 2 flats in 2 weeks in heat races for no apparent reason.

So I drive 3 hours to a race and pack it up in the feature becuase I get a flat? I'd just stay hone the next time

W16 is still going to cost you 16k american to get setup to start. Sure the motor is 13500 but that's still almost 3 602s. You're probably buying more expensive fuel and you'll be harder on tires. Aluminum body shocks are like 150 more expensive. I'm not sure what a refresh is looking like on a w16 or how fast they get them fixed if you have a problem. Even if you have the money to do it theres the question of why move up? How many guys in sportsman could move up and be competitive in a 358?

They had one when it was asphalt and they attempted to make a dirt one but that never worked out. The sportsman class is mostly local guys but there isnt a huge incentive to move up. Spend 20k on a motor to race for something like 1200 to win? And even then if you're just moving up maheny raabe and bernier are going to be impossible to keep up with

More people in the area by Fulton. Theres so many tracks up here and just not enough people to support a full class at every track 3 nights a week

Well it was already a rule for the SDS so the whole conversation hasn't really gotten us anywhere