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how is that going to work? need more info, what tires are they going to run? slicks like a go kart? or maybe beadlocks and latemodel tires?....would be really interesting to see but cant help but have a feeling it maybe terrible

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I love everything about this race except for NASCAR's decision to break the feature up into 3 segments! That's going to kill this whole race!!! If they believe that there may be an issue with fuel for 150 laps then why not have just one break??? Maybe lap 50? Or lap 75 at the latest? I don't like this BS of making it like the Trucks version of the All Star race, shame on NASCAR with this logic!!! Just let the race play out like any other normal race instead this contrived intermissions crap! Just MHO

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I love everything about this race except for NASCAR's decision to break the feature up into 3 segments! That's going to kill this whole race!!! If they believe that there may be an issue with fuel for 150 laps then why not have just one break??? Maybe lap 50? Or lap 75 at the latest? I don't like this BS of making it like the Trucks version of the All Star race, shame on NASCAR with this logic!!! Just let the race play out like any other normal race instead this contrived intermissions crap! Just MHO


That was my thought at first also. However, it sounds more like how the trucks did it back in the beginning than an All Star format. Just a few caution laps, but not an intermission.
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That was my thought at first also. However, it sounds more like how the trucks did it back in the beginning than an All Star format. Just a few caution laps, but not an intermission.

 

 

Yes, but remember, the Trucks first few years of existence they did take a break! But it was a halfway break, just one stoppage during the Main to get fresh tires, fuel, make adjustments, etc... For this race they are planning 2 stoppages.

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When the series was started, the races used to be 200 laps with a stop at 100. Thats the way they did it at Flemington. I would like to see them do it that way. If they want only 150 laps, then just stop once at 75.  I'm with Baumes, too much like the all star version. 

 

I think the only reason that the races had a break, was the pit road issue at some of the tracks.

 

I read the qualifying procedure, but still a little confusing.  Are the top 20 in points locked into the show already?

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I don't really have a problem with the breaks, it's a good work around to Eldora not having a suitable pit road. They could probably get by with just a halfway break like they used to do in the early years of the truck series, but since this is new territory for the series, it's better to be a little cautious with the format for the first race. I was a little disappointed with the heat race format, I understand why they have to do it this way but it's going to make it a little confusing for some fans to figure out the transfer spot with all the locked in trucks in the mix. Should still be interesting race, hopefully NASCAR doesn't get discouraged by any of the problems they will face and maybe we can see more dirt track races on the schedule in the future.

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I read the qualifying procedure, but still a little confusing.  Are the top 20 in points locked into the show already?

 

If I am interpretting it correctly it will be like the qualifying races for the Daytona 500 used to be when they still had the top 35 rules where the transfer spot is floating around the cars that are already locked in. Each of the 5 heat races will have four trucks that are in the top 20 in points, and those 4 trucks will transfer to the feature no matter where they finish in the heat race. The 5th truck to transfer out of each heat race will be the first truck that is not a guarenteed starter (in other words a non top 20 in points team), this means that theoretically someone could finish second in their heat race and still not make it into the feature. So a team that is top 20 in points will start no worse than 25th and they don't even have to run their heat race to qualify for the feature. It's a confusing format from what we are used to seeing but a necessary evil if they want to be consistent with their qualifying rules for the series.  

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That is the dumbest ass thing I've ever heard.

They are showing way too much favoritism to the series regulars. Has this been the same rules for EVERY truck race this year?

I'm sick of teams not having to earn their way into every race.

You basically have 10 spots and with all the names headed out there you're going to have well over 30 teams trying to get one of those 10 spots. While the others can take it easy in qualifying, just practice in the heat. Then run in the feature. Total crap. This is why I hate NASCAR so much.. Only they can screw up such a special event.
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I thought Nascar was supposed to be the top of our sport but apparently not. You don't see any other racing series to get "breaks" to fix and make adjustments, they have to do it on the fly. I say too bad work with you got and grow a pair for f@!#$ sake! If they need   practice time to make the cars handle better and put on a better show then give it to them, but not like this.This almost ruins the whole damn thing.

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That is the dumbest ass thing I've ever heard.

They are showing way too much favoritism to the series regulars. Has this been the same rules for EVERY truck race this year?

I'm sick of teams not having to earn their way into every race.

You basically have 10 spots and with all the names headed out there you're going to have well over 30 teams trying to get one of those 10 spots. While the others can take it easy in qualifying, just practice in the heat. Then run in the feature. Total crap. This is why I hate NASCAR so much.. Only they can screw up such a special event.

 

Current qualifying rules for the truck series are that the top 25 in owners points are locked in to the event, they have adjusted it to top 20 for Eldora since the field size is being reduced from the normal 36 to 30. It's not really any different from any other truck race, they have just adopted the alternative of having qualifying events to determine the last 9-10 spots rather than have it solely based on time trials, which at the very least gives the guys that are better racers the opportunity to make the race over guys that can lay down a good lap.

 

I'm not a fan of the top 25 rule, I'd much rather see a format similar to what is used currently in Cup with a provisional system being used to fill out the back of the grid, but it's the rule they have for the year and it wouldn't be fair to drop it just for one race.

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That is the dumbest ass thing I've ever heard.

They are showing way too much favoritism to the series regulars. Has this been the same rules for EVERY truck race this year?

I'm sick of teams not having to earn their way into every race.

You basically have 10 spots and with all the names headed out there you're going to have well over 30 teams trying to get one of those 10 spots. While the others can take it easy in qualifying, just practice in the heat. Then run in the feature. Total crap. This is why I hate NASCAR so much.. Only they can screw up such a special event.

Normally the top 25 are locked in for truck series shows. And I believe its a full points race. So lowering the number to 20 is actually going to hurt some of the series regulars.  It could be worse. They could of left the number at 25. Heck, the cup series was top 35 last year and got reduced to 30 this year.

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I think especially because of this race it would be, since they are going to have so many more drivers trying to qualify. Be men get rid of this stupid rule and every try to qualify like real race teams should.

NASCAR has always had no problem adding, removing, suspending, or changing rules from week to week. Time for them to put on their big boy pants and man up. And if a Dillon, Hornaday, or Bodine or any of the new brat pack kids they have can't qualify, they can suck it up.
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Current qualifying rules for the truck series are that the top 25 in owners points are locked in to the event, they have adjusted it to top 20 for Eldora since the field size is being reduced from the normal 36 to 30. It's not really any different from any other truck race, they have just adopted the alternative of having qualifying events to determine the last 9-10 spots rather than have it solely based on time trials, which at the very least gives the guys that are better racers the opportunity to make the race over guys that can lay down a good lap.

 

I'm not a fan of the top 25 rule, I'd much rather see a format similar to what is used currently in Cup with a provisional system being used to fill out the back of the grid, but it's the rule they have for the year and it wouldn't be fair to drop it just for one race.

Isn't the cup system the same?  Just top 30 instead of top 25?

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Cup dropped the rule because they realized how stupid it was...

Now every team has to qualify to get into the race. But they still have provisionals.
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Cup dropped the rule because they realized how stupid it was...

Now every team has to qualify to get into the race. But they still have provisionals.

And the provisionals would be? Top 30?  So the rule is the same :question:  

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No it's not the same.

"NASCAR has changed the qualifying rules for Sprint Cup in 2013. Instead of the top 35 teams being locked into a race, only seven drivers will enter a race with a guaranteed a spot.

The first 36 spots will be based on qualifying speed, then six spots go to non-qualifiers based on owner points. The final spot goes to a past champion. If there’s no past champion, the final spot goes to the next driver based on owner points."

"Any past champion who ran at least one race the previous season starts the year with one provisional starting spot. Once a driver uses it, they must make six attempts to qualify before getting another past champion’s provisional — the driver would get use of the provisional at that sixth race."
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Before if say Kenny Wallace was the 12th fastest car, but 5 cars ahead of him were faster and weren't in the top 35 in points. He wouldn't qualify for the rest because. But now it doesn't matter who you are if you are your 35th fastest and Jeff Gordon is 36th fastest, Jeff would have to use a provisional.

So if 12 non regulars make it in the top 35 fastests, they all are in the race. Before only 5 of them would've been in the race.
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No it's not the same.

"NASCAR has changed the qualifying rules for Sprint Cup in 2013. Instead of the top 35 teams being locked into a race, only seven drivers will enter a race with a guaranteed a spot.

The first 36 spots will be based on qualifying speed, then six spots go to non-qualifiers based on owner points. The final spot goes to a past champion. If there’s no past champion, the final spot goes to the next driver based on owner points."

"Any past champion who ran at least one race the previous season starts the year with one provisional starting spot. Once a driver uses it, they must make six attempts to qualify before getting another past champion’s provisional — the driver would get use of the provisional at that sixth race."

Nice !!  I'm behind the times I guess.  I did not realize there were only 7 provisionals.  For some reason I thought that they just lowered the number to 30.  I was never a fan of the top 35.  How ridiculous is that??  Crazy

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I could careless how they qualify, I have my tickets and you know its going to be a good time either way..... id rather see them do away with the top 20 locked in deal but in the end you are getting heats and a feature im happy with that. the breaks may help it or hurt it idk and I don't care. getting to see the trucks on dirt is enough for me. and ohio has white castles so im all good for that week.

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