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I'm not usually one to complain, but does anyone else see an issue with these stadium seats at their weekly tracks?? http://www.amazon.com/Original-STADIUM-Portable-Folding-Cushioned/dp/B008SGQU2U/ref=sr_1_19?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1399201173&sr=1-19 I'm O.K. With the normal ones or even the ones they rent at the track, but these seats are so big and hang so far over the back of the bleacher board, no one can sit behind them. Am I the only one?? I think they should be banned.
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If seating in the stands are reserved and your the person behind, yes there is major problem. If you have a full grandstand and your crowded in, there is a problem. If there is plenty of room in the vicinity, this would be a different story tho.
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We have reserved seats on the top row. The folks who sit in front of us, also reserved, use these seats and it's really become an issue. I am just curious who else has seen this as an issue??
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I have a huge issue with stadium seats. This is one of the main reasons I no longer attend Malta on a regular basis. Some fans are very understanding and try to give you your space. Others just don't care...they're practically sitting in your lap. Then you have the chairs with a storage area in the back that fans use as a backpack. Just my 2 cents
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I have run into these types of seats at 2 tracks I go to. At Middletown these seats are no problem at all. There is pleanty of room in their stands. On the other hand at the Valley where the seating is TIGHT to begin with these seats suck. One time I put up with it because it was an older man so I pretty much sat with my knees turned sideways most of the night. I was always told to respect your elders. The next time it was a kid about early 20`s and close to 300lbs so it was already uncomfortable to begin with. When he came back with the stadium seat I put my knees into his back the entire night. This is just a case if you are going to make me uncomfortable consider the "favor" returned. 

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I am guilty of using a stadium seat. At my hometrack Lebanon Valley it isn't a problem as I am blessed to sit towards the top of the blue bleachers where we have a wide space between the seats.At some other tracks it is a problem so I scrunch up so that I do not hit the knees of anyone sitting behind me or simply leave it in the car. I have witnessed rude behavior on the part of people using stadium seats so I try to be careful. My personal pet peeve would be people who have coolers and gigantic duffle bags that take up the walking space. In life in general there are approximately 98% of those who do not care about anyone else and there are those like me who feel guilty if they cause problems for others. I find people who like to stand up during races to be a bigger problem.  A few of my friends and I have moved our long held reserved season's tickets about 15 feet over to avoid morons who stand in front of the Lebanon Valley tower. It takes all kinds I guess. The important thing is that we go to escape reality at a race track, not to have to deal with it.

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Art,

 

It's people like you who are considerate of others that I have no problem with.  It's unfortunate that some ruin it for others.  I've encountered numerous people that will move their chair up or even ask if I have enough room....I'll even deal with the seat regardless of what room I have if I'm asked if I have room or I see them making an effort to not be in my lap.  For every person like that I come across another that just doesn't give a damn...just as long as they are comfortable.  

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There are always a few who like to make life miserable for the rest of us. Others do so without realizing it. It's best to not go ballistic as having a blood pressure rating of 1000 over 425 can have longterm health effects.

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Before they ban stadium seats they should ban smoking in the grandstand-then they can ban stadium seats.

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It's not really the seats that are an issue, it's the douchebags sitting in them and pushing them as far back as possible that causes the issue.

 

I find the people the come as a large group to the races, sit right on top of you and then spend the next 3 hours chatting and getting up every 5 seconds to go to the bathroom/concessions instead of watching the races to be more of a PITA.

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I have always tried to be respectful of the other fans around me. After all we will be there for a few hours together so might as well make the best of it. All it takes is for the one person in front of you to be inconsiderate to make it a long night at the track. Whether it be seating, smoking,heavy intoxication or swearing up a storm while there are families around. I am all for everbody personal choices just do them with common sense.

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Those stadium seats like the one pictured in the amazon link above are a nuisance. I'd like to see all tracks ban them for their bigger shows, just like they do with coolers.

And speaking of people who stand up all night...

I have been to Glen Ridge 3 or 4 times and one of the things that really annoyed the hell out of me was the people lined up tight against the fence near turn 4. NOBODY but them can see! Mark my words... someone is going to get seriously hurt there, and through their own stupidity, will sue the hell out of the joint and win. 

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Last year we went to Ransomville for the Alex Friesen Summer Nationals and got there early to enjoy a few drinks in the parking lot, so we threw a blanket down. We went back in during warm ups and people had those seats sitting in front of us, and even though it was 2 of them had 2-3 rows of seats there. We politely asked them to slide up a bit because we literally couldn't fit our knees in there. They rudely told us it wasn't there problem, so we slid our legs in behind them the best we could, and since our knees were in their backs they went and called security ON US! Luckily, the other fans in the section saw the situation and had our backs and the security guard made them put them away or move up to the other row of seats they had saved. So, if anyone else here sits between the flag stand and turn 1, thanks for having our back that night! 

 

A seat cushion is one thing, but they definitely shouldn't be allowed to use these. That was actually the first time I ever even noticed anyone using them at the races, I'd like to think most people have enough respect for those around them to give everyone else the space they also paid for.  

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I am guilty of using a stadium seat. At my hometrack Lebanon Valley it isn't a problem as I am blessed to sit towards the top of the blue bleachers where we have a wide space between the seats.At some other tracks it is a problem so I scrunch up so that I do not hit the knees of anyone sitting behind me or simply leave it in the car. I have witnessed rude behavior on the part of people using stadium seats so I try to be careful. My personal pet peeve would be people who have coolers and gigantic duffle bags that take up the walking space. In life in general there are approximately 98% of those who do not care about anyone else and there are those like me who feel guilty if they cause problems for others. I find people who like to stand up during races to be a bigger problem.  A few of my friends and I have moved our long held reserved season's tickets about 15 feet over to avoid morons who stand in front of the Lebanon Valley tower. It takes all kinds I guess. The important thing is that we go to escape reality at a race track, not to have to deal with it.

 

 

There's been a few races were  people standing up have been a major problem.I'm usually a really mild mannered person.Well one night a few years ago at Lebanon Valley during the world of outlaws they had two or three kids stand up during the whole feature.We were in the third row from the top in turn 4.In the first couple of laps there were a few cautions.I screamed sit down twice.I got so fed up with them I moved all the way to the bottom so I could actually see any part of the race.

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At Ohsweken, they are banned for the big shows-ok at the weekly ones where there is more space available. Personally, I like the green ones that are like a double cushion and don't intrude into your neighbours space. I guess the problem is that the big ones with the arm rests sort of show the inadequacies in the design of the stands at most tracks. Bigger people these days in stands designed in the 1950s.

 And Ohsweken has banned smoking in the stands which is interesting as the track owner (Curt Styres) is a part owner of the large native run tobacco company (Grand River Ent.).

 More and more of the tracks only allow a 6 pack size cooler these days too and I can see the day coming when coolers could be banned entirely. Currently local auto racing is the only minor league sport I can think of that permits food, drinks brought in from outside but a number of tracks, like Lake Erie, forbid even bottled water to be brought in. They realize that concession sales makes up a great part of their revenue but in Lake Erie's case, the stands are modern enough that fans can easily get to the canteens. Maybe that is the problem

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I won't go to a track where you can't bring in food or water........... Oswego, Lake Erie, Holland.

 

As a public service announcement, feel free to post other tracks you know of that have that rule.

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There should be a reserved section in the bleachers for those seats. Some people with back problems (such as myself) need them. I would NEVER set the seat up with someone directly in back of me. I'll find a different spot to sit. News to me that Malta has a smoking ban, maybe they should try to enforce it once in a while!

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I hate those seats that is one of the reasons I always get to the track early and put my blanket down and also put one down in front of me so no one can put one of those seats in front of me. If the place gets full I will let someone looking for a place to sit use my blanket as long as they don't have a stadium seat.

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This reminds of going to concerts where the idiots have to stand and dance all night instead of sitting down and letting every one see the show in a comfortable manner. Basically they are saying screw you - it's all about me.  Makes one wonder how people like that get along in their everyday life's  with that attitude ? As far as not being able to bring food and drinks in goes - I'll pay a reasonable price for refreshments and help the track as long as they don't gouge me.  One has to expect to pay a little more for the  service of fresh food. Once they say I can't bring stuff in, I refuse to go there. Like A/S when Mr. Richards was the " so called " promoter. 

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This reminds of going to concerts where the idiots have to stand and dance all night instead of sitting down and letting every one see the show in a comfortable manner. Basically they are saying screw you - it's all about me.  Makes one wonder how people like that get along in their everyday life's  with that attitude ? As far as not being able to bring food and drinks in goes - I'll pay a reasonable price for refreshments and help the track as long as they don't gouge me.  One has to expect to pay a little more for the  service of fresh food. Once they say I can't bring stuff in, I refuse to go there. Like A/S when Mr. Richards was the " so called " promoter. 

 

 

Ok, exactly what concerts do you go to where everyone should be expected to stay seated for the duration? The Lawrence Welk Review? I'm not exactly a spring chicken anymore, but sure hope I never turn into a grumpy old man like some of the posts on this thread seem to represent. The day that the whole crowd stays seated for an entire WoO sprint car feature is the day the you can start working on the eulogy for the whole damn sport.  There are a lot of posts on here that make valid points about respecting your neighbor in the stands.  But there are also a lot of posts here from people who have forgotten how to enjoy themselves and don't want anyone else to either.

 

" A one and a two..."

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As far as the stadium seats go I agree.  But if your "not" going to a track for the reason of someone in front of you siting in one of these than "you're" the problem......Man up, knee them in the back, their area ends where the back of their seat does.........Stop running away from your problems.  Smoking - I agree with no smoking in the stands.  I smoke and i know it blows in direction of people and I won't smoke in a packed grand stand ( I do if not packed).  And if someone asks nicely for me to put one out I have no problem with it.  And the person who won't go to a track that allows food or "water" grow up. These are the minor issues in the world that create ridiculous laws and guidelines that somehow our judicial system acknowledges...... 

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This reminds of going to concerts where the idiots have to stand and dance all night instead of sitting down and letting every one see the show in a comfortable manner. Basically they are saying screw you - it's all about me.  Makes one wonder how people like that get along in their everyday life's  with that attitude ? As far as not being able to bring food and drinks in goes - I'll pay a reasonable price for refreshments and help the track as long as they don't gouge me.  One has to expect to pay a little more for the  service of fresh food. Once they say I can't bring stuff in, I refuse to go there. Like A/S when Mr. Richards was the " so called " promoter. 

 

 

Ok, exactly what concerts do you go to where everyone should be expected to stay seated for the duration? The Lawrence Welk Review? I'm not exactly a spring chicken anymore, but sure hope I never turn into a grumpy old man like some of the posts on this thread seem to represent. The day that the whole crowd stays seated for an entire WoO sprint car feature is the day the you can start working on the eulogy for the whole damn sport.  There are a lot of posts on here that make valid points about respecting your neighbor in the stands.  But there are also a lot of posts here from people who have forgotten how to enjoy themselves and don't want anyone else to either.

 

" A one and a two..."

 

No concerts is my final answer ! I never said I expect everyone "to stay seated for the duration " as you have suggested. I have no problem when people stand when the band opens, or when people stand and cheer for the band to come back for an encore, or when one of the musicians just ripped off a great solo. My issue is when someone stands all night for the duration of the concert. Would you like to sit behind someone who stood up for the whole concert, without sitting at all ? Oh, by the way, I do enjoy myself at concerts and races ! 

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