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Just ranting a bit here, but it drives me crazy when some tracks don't update their web sites in timely fashion. One of the tracks I go to the most didn't even make entry on their site yesterday saying if they were running or not.
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That's not a rant,it's a legit complaint. With all the weather yesterday you'd think a simple red light or cancelled across the home page would be easy enough. Some of the sites I went to yesterday hadn't been updated since the middle of April!

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A lot of tracks now think facebook is a substitute for updating their webpage in a timely fashion. Very short sighted.

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A lot of tracks now think facebook is a substitute for updating their webpage in a timely fashion. Very short sighted.

This didn't even happen in this case.   Nothing more frustrating when you can not attend a race for what ever reason (work, or other commitments) and they don't post the results the following day.   Already thinking about going to another track this  coming weekend weather permitting.  

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I'm at a crossroads on this discussion. Social Media is where everything is going. I think to be a highly efficient promotion team, you need both a timely up to date website that displays the schedule, advertises sponsors, keeps up to date full results and points. Pictures are always nice as well.

On the social media side though I think it's necessary too to have live updates on results from heats and features as well as some candid behind the scenes pictures and links to videos etc.

You HAVE to keep people connected and interested when they can't be at the track. I know I peruse twitter and Facebook religiously on race nights looking for results.
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Not only track sites and speaking of that! I looked at one the other day that hasn't been updated since 2011! Drivers sites need to be updated as well. In some cases drivers in the only way of sponsors connecting to you!!!

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A lot of tracks now think facebook is a substitute for updating their webpage in a timely fashion. Very short sighted.

This didn't even happen in this case.   Nothing more frustrating when you can not attend a race for what ever reason (work, or other commitments) and they don't post the results the following day.   Already thinking about going to another track this  coming weekend weather permitting.  

 


I have a question. Did you feel the same way 10 years ago when facebook, twitter, websites and the internet were still dreams and you had to wait a whole week to read results in one of the trade papers? I'm not being sarcastic here, but social media and websites really have sucked some of the life out of the sport if you ask me. There was a time when a big show was coming up and nobody could wait. It was a must that you be there. Live updates and cell phone video that can be posted within minutes have made it possible for me to sit in the stands at the Sky Chiefs game and still be at the races at the same time. 

Technology advancements are great, don't get me wrong. But they also chip away at the life of the sport. I'm not convinced it is always a good thing.

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I always pay close attention to topics like this.  this is what I do.  I now have every track website that I do set up so that I can update right from my iphone.  social media is also a big deal.  people want to know whats going on right away. You cant have just a website, or just a facebook page...both work together to help people get the info they want as quick and efficiently as possible.

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Bob...if a guy sits at home, or makes other plans to be somewhere else just because he can follow updates at his local racetrack on his phone....he is not a racefan.  If I am sitting at Brockville Speedway on Saturday night, I want to know wants going on at Canandaigua too, and fonda, and fulton, etc....websites and social media open up a whole new world for racefans.  

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Bob, do you remember Paul Tremaine's Checkered Flag Announcer? We had the top five from many of the tracks alot of times before we left the after race party and at the latest by the next morning. That was in the 1970's.

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Bob...if a guy sits at home, or makes other plans to be somewhere else just because he can follow updates at his local racetrack on his phone....he is not a racefan.  If I am sitting at Brockville Speedway on Saturday night, I want to know wants going on at Canandaigua too, and fonda, and fulton, etc....websites and social media open up a whole new world for racefans.  

 

I don't think people are staying home just because they can get updates on their cell phones, but I do think that expecting live updates at every event at every track is asking too much. I go to Canandaigua on Saturday nights. When I get home, I check the computer to see who won at the other Saturday night tracks just like everyone else does. If posting results doesn't happen until Sunday morning, I am fine with that. In fact, it has been a routine for me ever since I have owned a computer to sit at the computer with my quart sized cup of coffee on Sunday mornings and catch up on everything I missed. 
 

Bob, do you remember Paul Tremaine's Checkered Flag Announcer? We had the top five from many of the tracks alot of times before we left the after race party and at the latest by the next morning. That was in the 1970's.

 

I don't remember this. I was a teenager in the 70's. My Dad, brother and I would fly home after the races so we could watch Bob Backlund kick Sgt. Slaughter or Billy Graham's ass. :D What radio station carried this Paul Tremaine guy? 

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Bob...if a guy sits at home, or makes other plans to be somewhere else just because he can follow updates at his local racetrack on his phone....he is not a racefan.  If I am sitting at Brockville Speedway on Saturday night, I want to know wants going on at Canandaigua too, and fonda, and fulton, etc....websites and social media open up a whole new world for racefans.  

 

I don't think people are staying home just because they can get updates on their cell phones, but I do think that expecting live updates at every event at every track is asking too much. I go to Canandaigua on Saturday nights. When I get home, I check the computer to see who won at the other Saturday night tracks just like everyone else does. If posting results doesn't happen until Sunday morning, I am fine with that. In fact, it has been a routine for me ever since I have owned a computer to sit at the computer with my quart sized cup of coffee on Sunday mornings and catch up on everything I missed. 
 

Bob, do you remember Paul Tremaine's Checkered Flag Announcer? We had the top five from many of the tracks alot of times before we left the after race party and at the latest by the next morning. That was in the 1970's.

 

I don't remember this. I was a teenager in the 70's. My Dad, brother and I would fly home after the races so we could watch Bob Backlund kick Sgt. Slaughter or Billy Graham's ass. :D What radio station carried this Paul Tremaine guy? 

 

Sometimes tracks won't put the results up until late Sunday or even into Monday and Tuesday from Saturday night. That's far too long in my opinion in this day and age.

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i guess this part doesnt bother me much, if someone tells me who won elsewhere when im at woodhull saturday night, fine if not ill look sunday, i aint looking at my phone seeing who  did what where, just isnt that big of deal to me, if they won sat nite, short of a DQ, same name will be there sunday or monday when then get it up.

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What about a track (OCFS) that gets an email from a fan (me) asking them to correct their link to their MyLaps link, that leads to an "OOPS" Notice, and "Page not found", and they seem to see fit not to correct that?

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I think all tracks should update their websites in at least 24 hours. FACEBOOK is not the answer. It is a shame that they have a site and don't maintain it in a timely manner. From what I can see,all tracks are guilty of this .
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Do tracks themselves have the "authority" to go in and update their websites on their own or does the info have to be routed through the site operator? If through the operator, I can understand most times the delay in updating. 

 

As for facebook and twitter, this is immediate and definately within the tracks control therefore I see that being updated in a more timely manner. 

 

Posting updates throughout the night, I'm on the fence about that. I know not everyone can always go to the races every night. Posting all the heat results and car counts as they happen may be a bit excessive but if you post the feature results as they happen, that i can see. 

 

Brewerton and Fulton are great in these regards. Facebook is full of info all night and the website is usually updated by the time i get home (15-20 minute drive) with results and the points are usually done by early next morning. 

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I think all tracks should update their websites in at least 24 hours. FACEBOOK is not the answer. It is a shame that they have a site and don't maintain it in a timely manner. From what I can see,all tracks are guilty of this .

 

All tracks are guilty of this?  I work with 11 race tracks in the area...and the info is posted as soon as i get it from the track.  in some cases, the sites are updated with full results, and at the very least, feature winners before i end my night.

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Bob, do you remember Paul Tremaine's Checkered Flag Announcer? We had the top five from many of the tracks alot of times before we left the after race party and at the latest by the next morning. That was in the 1970's.

 

I don't remember this. I was a teenager in the 70's. My Dad, brother and I would fly home after the races so we could watch Bob Backlund kick Sgt. Slaughter or Billy Graham's ass. :D What radio station carried this Paul Tremaine guy? 

 

The checkered flag announcer was a phone number from Conn. you would call and Paul Tremaine would make recorded tapes that would play the results. It eventually became several #'s. One was New England, one was NJ and Long Island, one was dirt results, etc. I used to call it all the time.

 

I also would make sure to watch wrestling, first up was IWA, then later on about 1-2AM the WWWF would come on. :)

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When I wrote race recaps and results for a track, I needed to have my writeup in to the trade papers by noon (I think) on Saturday.  (we were a Friday night track).  So before going to sleep I usually had it all done up and sent.  I'm not sure it always made it to the website immediately, but it was a simple enough copy & paste.

 

I was surprised in the last week at a track website's lack of updates...weather was extremely "iffy" last Saturday.  No mention of anything on the site.  I heard they ran a heat and that was it...but I only "heard" that, they didn't even put out press about anything even happening at the track last week!  Blows my mind when some places seem to go out of their way not to be noticed.

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Just like when I check websites for restaurants, contractors, or other services, I tend to avoid those businesses that   don't update their sites,  thinking about doing the same in this case as well.     

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Somebody at Albany Saratoga has been reading this thread because their point totals and handicapping are posted this morning on their website. Awesome job in getting the information out there in a super timely fashion.

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I can remember a not long ago when I was Mr. Technology, Always selling the idea that you had to have the latest and greatest computer equipment, join all the hip sites and that the internet is going to change the world! (for the better) etc. etc.

 

Well as much as I hate to say this. Bob is RIGHT. (ouch that hurts to say) I wont get into all my conspiracy theories on how the internet and social media is destroying the human race. I will just stick to topic and talk about how its ruining the sport we all love. back 10-15 years ago when the flow of information was restricted to word of mouth things used to be exciting. Racing would last 7 days a week, not just race day. You would actually have to make a phone call or meet up with friends to discuss the latest rumor or highlights of events. you could use your imagination on what took place or anticipate what next week will bring. I used to live and breath racing. I would love to be one of the first to hear a new or squash an old rumor and be one of the ones to propagate it. now everyone knows everything and rumors are dangerous because they can spread faster than fire through dry hay. I now think of racing pretty much only on race day. I too will jump on the web site to see if the green light is flashing and if it is I will go to the track and for at least a few hours I will leave technology behind, see my friends, eat an awful hot dog that i payed to much for and have the best 3 hours of my week.

 

I will close with this. If you are going to contribute to the fall of the human race (maybe thats a little strong) the least you can do is update the green or red light on race day :)

 

John

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:D What radio station carried this Paul Tremaine guy? 

 

The checkered flag announcer was a phone number from Conn. you would call and Paul Tremaine would make recorded tapes that would play the results. It eventually became several #'s. One was New England, one was NJ and Long Island, one was dirt results, etc. I used to call it all the time.

 

 

 

 

 

His NEAR Hall of Fame page:

http://near1.speedwaylinereport.com/HALL-OF-FAME/2004/Paul_Tremaine.htm

 

 

and a video tribute:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAvM1zWRSZg

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