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Bring in food trucks.  The food was HORRIBLE and holy crap expensive.  

 

I apparently need to start camping so I can take advantage of fact that it is the season's biggest party with some cars driving around in circles attached to it. On Saturday,  1&2 had a tiny bit of passing (thank you Carey Terrance and Larry Wight), 3&4 absolutely none... 

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Have a centralized location for bands on Thursday nite=Saturday nite......10-2

 

Start utilizing the brush trucks again on caution periods.  The track would have gotten much wider much quicker if you brushed off the marbles.

 

Don't be afraid to give the outside some moisture to attract the boys with a set.

 

Have some sort of disabled permit for people that have to use a scooter to get around.  Last year I was given a pass,  I wound up buying an infield parking permit this year. 

 

Have the announcers create a ceremony to acknowledge the previous champions.

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it doesn't need a super special car really and I can tell you some guys if not most guys use the same motor they have run all year just freshened up I don't think the racing is all that great at the mile but it is just the history of the place if you took it away from the fairgrounds it just would be super dirt week anymore


Eventually one of these plans to turn the fairgrounds into a casino or whatever is going to go through. Super DIRT Week is going to have to relocate when that happens. Thats not going to kill the history of the event, nor will moving it sooner. It would just add wrinkles to the history of the race.

Of course, it's going to be a little hard to find a facility that could handle the crowds and festivities that come with the event. Off the top, the only place that I could really think of is The Wheels being able to pull it off, but they'd have to add a bunch of seating and expand the pits. Supposedly the new owners plan on doing just that.

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The place is a $hithole for car racing. The drivers dont care for it. The vendors are all a rip off. Why continue to sugar coat it? Turn it into a series at 3 or 4 tracks. Wont cost the drivers any more than they get raped for now with all the expenses it takes to run Syracuse. I think the week is a disaster and money pit for drivers, teams and fans. Time to step up and make a major change.

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I think you need to make Super Dirt Week  SUPER again,  Big Blocks Small Blocks WOO Sprints and the Late Models is what the venue needs to be.   Sportsman and Pro Stocks should have a Huge race somewhere where anyone can bring there short track set up Sat night special to run. They should be the satellite shows.  Let's face it they all pay the same as the Big Block and Small Block teams and don't get crap for track time.  Rolling Wheels would be a great place to do that but jury is out on that deal as of right now.  Brewerton would be awesome.   Food prices were  ridiculous in the stands and the service sucked.  Bathrooms were bad..  Vendors outside were great   Most times more is not always better and Bringing in USAC as much as I like them only clogged a show that had a too full of a plate to start with... 

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Nobody wants to hear my opinion...

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Do noy blame WRG or the vendors for the exuberant prices in the grandstands....the concessions are run by the state of NY....figures...

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Sounds to me that downthebackstretch is a complainer. Don't like Syracuse.. Don't go simple as that... Probably someone that doesn't camp there and get the full experience , but instead commutes and tries to rush around to all the satellites which never works when trying to get the full experience. Yes the years prior have been terrible at Syracuse but the past two years the big race has been great and the Friday night shows are a different/entertaining aspect if Syracuse. The thread is about change and comments not to completely get rid of it
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Going to a different venue really isn't an option. There is no place near here that could hold all the campers, haulers and yes, fans. The main grandstand holds 14,500 (yes, I counted). On Sunday there's a legit 8-10,000 up there.
I'm not sure if Glenn's track with his land could be big enough.
And you know what...the mile alone makes this THE event.
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I would like to see the Super Late Models at some point during the week. No matter what track. I would also like to see USAC stay. Maybe even do two races. One on the Mile and one on a short track.

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Do noy blame WRG or the vendors for the exuberant prices in the grandstands....the concessions are run by the state of NY....figures...

 

The question was how can it be improved....Knowing that the concessions in the stands are run by NY, I suggested additional food trucks.  I would pay 7.50 for a burger if it wasn't horrendous.

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Dirtracer323, I am complaining. And I said CHANGE the location. I don't camp there because I go to watch racing. If I want to camp I go to where there is a lake and I can fish. The track is always in lousy shape. I hope you heard drivers complaining about only one lane early on. If it wasn't for Stewey and his aggressive driving there would have been little excitement.

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Would having it somewhere else really help the racing tho? So many cars, so much racing going on, so many laps. Track was rubber up just like Syracuse I think, and might be more boring. Just a thought

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Going to a different venue really isn't an option. There is no place near here that could hold all the campers, haulers and yes, fans. The main grandstand holds 14,500 (yes, I counted). On Sunday there's a legit 8-10,000 up there.
I'm not sure if Glenn's track with his land could be big enough.
And you know what...the mile alone makes this THE event.

 

 

This post hits the nail on the head. Even if there was another facility that had the acreage to hold all the competitors and fans (and grandstands big enough), no half mile track could ever be "special" enough for an event of this magnitude. If Glenn's new track was going to be the 3/4 mile they originally planned, well then maybe.  BTW, I lump Rolling Wheels in with the half miles. If you go on Google Earth and use the tools to measure it, it comes up around .54 mile, a far cry from .625. I'm not sure how accurate that is, but most all the other tracks I've checked like that(and there's been quite a few) measure as advertised.

 

Josh is probably right that the state will eventually decide to pursue other uses for that particular piece of real estate. But there's no need to rush things. Lets keep this event truly special as long as we can.

 

As far as changes, someone mentioned food trucks. If the state is running the concessions, they probably have veto power over something like that which could cost them sales of their own uh, "food".

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Going to a different venue really isn't an option. There is no place near here that could hold all the campers, haulers and yes, fans. The main grandstand holds 14,500 (yes, I counted). On Sunday there's a legit 8-10,000 up there.
I'm not sure if Glenn's track with his land could be big enough.
And you know what...the mile alone makes this THE event.



This post hits the nail on the head. Even if there was another facility that had the acreage to hold all the competitors and fans (and grandstands big enough), no half mile track could ever be "special" enough for an event of this magnitude. If Glenn's new track was going to be the 3/4 mile they originally planned, well then maybe. BTW, I lump Rolling Wheels in with the half miles. If you go on Google Earth and use the tools to measure it, it comes up around .54 mile, a far cry from .625. I'm not sure how accurate that is, but most all the other tracks I've checked like that(and there's been quite a few) measure as advertised.

Josh is probably right that the state will eventually decide to pursue other uses for that particular piece of real estate. But there's no need to rush things. Lets keep this event truly special as long as we can.

As far as changes, someone mentioned food trucks. If the state is running the concessions, they probably have veto power over something like that which could cost them sales of their own uh, "food".

The World 100, Knoxville Nationals and probably The World Finals are just as special (if not more than) as SDW, and they're all held at tracks 1/2 mile or less.
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Going to a different venue really isn't an option. There is no place near here that could hold all the campers, haulers and yes, fans. The main grandstand holds 14,500 (yes, I counted). On Sunday there's a legit 8-10,000 up there.
I'm not sure if Glenn's track with his land could be big enough.
And you know what...the mile alone makes this THE event.



This post hits the nail on the head. Even if there was another facility that had the acreage to hold all the competitors and fans (and grandstands big enough), no half mile track could ever be "special" enough for an event of this magnitude. If Glenn's new track was going to be the 3/4 mile they originally planned, well then maybe. BTW, I lump Rolling Wheels in with the half miles. If you go on Google Earth and use the tools to measure it, it comes up around .54 mile, a far cry from .625. I'm not sure how accurate that is, but most all the other tracks I've checked like that(and there's been quite a few) measure as advertised.

Josh is probably right that the state will eventually decide to pursue other uses for that particular piece of real estate. But there's no need to rush things. Lets keep this event truly special as long as we can.

As far as changes, someone mentioned food trucks. If the state is running the concessions, they probably have veto power over something like that which could cost them sales of their own uh, "food".

The World 100, Knoxville Nationals and probably The World Finals are just as special (if not more than) as SDW, and they're all held at tracks 1/2 mile or less.

 

 

So what track in NY has the ability to host one of those events? None.

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The World 100, Knoxville Nationals and probably The World Finals are just as special (if not more than) as SDW, and they're all held at tracks 1/2 mile or less.

 

Yea, and if the World 100 moved away from Eldora, would it still be the same?  And if the nationals went away from Knoxville, would anyone care about it anymore?

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would like to see the modified race at rolling wheels something to draw a few more cars make it a super dirt series race for the the big blocks  maybe bring back the late models that night too and have a triple header 

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Honestly, what I would love to see at Syracuse is to have somebody get a long-term lease (to justify the cost of what I propose).

 

Then build a 3/8-1/2 mile oval cutting across the infield (while keeping the mile intact) -- use the last half of the front stretch and turns one and two and then do a "soft left" about 1/4 of a way down the backstretch to curve into a "sweeping turn" across the infield and make sure the entrance back onto the front stretch is only a very slight angle change (the curve in the infield sets up a short-chute out of the infield onto the straightaway). You don't want to mess up the groove on the main track.

 

(I know this sounds crazy, but go look at an overhead view on Google maps -- this could be done without ruining the mile).

 

It would also mean adjusting the pit setup. It would mean a lot more camping outside the track since it eliminates half of the infield.

 

Put in stadium lights, at least on the "small track."

 

Use the mile only on Sunday and run the whole Big Block show -- time trials first thing in the morning, heats, last chance B and feature on Sunday, with Sportsman as the companion class.

 

Maybe keep the Pro Stocks and 358s on the mile for Saturday.

 

You could still have lots of open practice on the mile throughout the week.

 

But by adding the 1/2 mile, then you can add in 360 Sprints, the Outlaw Sprints (PA Posse vs the Outlaws), WoO Late Models, GoNuclear Late Models, etc. on the half mile in front of a 15,000 seat grandstand, without forcing the fans and race teams to drive all over Central New York.

 

Of course, you would want to have SuperDIRT races on the half mile for all of the main DIRTcar divisions -- all of this is run Wed-Sat-ish, day and night racing.

 

(The rest of the satellite races could be shuffled around -- SuperDIRT week might actually end up starting with the Outlaw 200, then Sunday at Weedsport or Rolling Wheels, and run all the way through until next Sunday at the Mile.)

 

Plus, with that configuration, Syracuse could become a weekly or specials only track that can be used through the season.

 

Again, my thinking about this is that it is the only dirt track on the entire East Coast with parking and seating for 15,000 fans. A lot of race teams are shut out of competing at the Mile (too expensive and they know they don't have the equipment to be competitive).

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Meh, you go to the satellite shows to see good racing , apparently you go to the mile to hang out and party. There's no point in "fixing" the mile when the cars and people still show up every year so outside of minor tweaks I don't see the event changing very much.

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Meh, you go to the satellite shows to see good racing , apparently you go to the mile to hang out and party. There's no point in "fixing" the mile when the cars and people still show up every year so outside of minor tweaks I don't see the event changing very much.

I haven't been to the mile in several years. But from the sounds of things, If I ever go again I am bringing back straps and PBR!

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