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They're not gonna sell....they are using it as a loss to offset other property that is making a lot of money

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2 hours ago, Dean Reynolds said:

Been done just very recently by a big player in our sport... result? It sits as is. 

Thank you

 

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On 7/31/2018 at 10:34 PM, WMR Racing said:

I believe Gerry was the last winner there in the 84 car last summer 

I believe the guys name is Gary.

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Would have been nice if the state spent money on RWRP instead of the spending on that track that never will be up in Central Square, New York and made RWRP the next NAPA Super Dirt week track!

 

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On 8/1/2018 at 9:02 AM, racer80 said:

The man who is listed on paper as the owner crewed for me in 2013 & I know for a fact that The Wheels was purchased with mob money out of Las Vegas. Jason Palmer is his brother-in-law & was appointed to run the facility.....it has had numerous offers, but they will not sell it

Probably money from Ace Rothstein's Tangiers casino.

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On August 1, 2018 at 2:25 AM, Dean Reynolds said:

Stop the madness!!!!  Now we can't get his 4 letter first name right....UGH! :wallbash: Lol

Gerry is his older twin brother.

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23 hours ago, bicknell1 said:

Would have been nice if the state spent money on RWRP instead of the spending on that track that never will be up in Central Square, New York and made RWRP the next NAPA Super Dirt week track!

 

The money didn't go to CNYRP, it went to the other track that is actually doing a pretty good job holding Super DIRT Week now.  And by the way, because of camping and seating, the ONLY track that really is big enough to hold Super DIRT Week.  There's enough land of 810 camping spots and enough seating for 12,000 folks. Most if not all tracks mentioned only has seating for about 5,000 or less and not nearly enough acreage for pits, camping and parking.  Heck even Oswego they still have to shuttle fans in, especially on Sun.

But yes, anything to get RWR up and running again....anything

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3 hours ago, Dean Reynolds said:

The money didn't go to CNYRP, it went to the other track that is actually doing a pretty good job holding Super DIRT Week now.  And by the way, because of camping and seating, the ONLY track that really is big enough to hold Super DIRT Week.  There's enough land of 810 camping spots and enough seating for 12,000 folks. Most if not all tracks mentioned only has seating for about 5,000 or less and not nearly enough acreage for pits, camping and parking.  Heck even Oswego they still have to shuttle fans in, especially on Sun.

There may be another track soon if things keep gong the way they are going. In southern NY where another fun weekend is held.

Chris Larsen's OCFS.

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Sad to see it like that, but he ain't the first or the last to let something nice go to crap for a write off if that what they doing. No one likes it but it's his to do as he pleases even though we don't think it's right. 

This would make 3 this year, little valley, skyline and rolling wheels. And depending on who you talk to number 4 may not be far away. 

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On 8/1/2018 at 7:51 PM, Dean Reynolds said:

Been done just very recently by a big player in our sport... result? It sits as is. 

Care to share who?

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24 minutes ago, toprow said:

Care to share who?

I think he was referring to Jeremie Corcoran.  

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1 hour ago, leroy said:

I think he was referring to Jeremie Corcoran.  

I'm pretty sure that John Wight made an offer & they refused it

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21 minutes ago, racer80 said:

I'm pretty sure that John Wight made an offer & they refused it

Maybe I miss read the post. 

I took it as if it had already been done before.  Bringin  in equip ,  Cleaning the place up, Promoting a show, etc

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On ‎8‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 2:00 PM, toprow said:

Care to share who?

I would have mentioned however they wanted to keep under wraps, but the only reason why I mentioned as it fell through and the reasoning makes the future of the track look very bleak.  And this was just a few weeks ago.

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On ‎8‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 11:22 AM, Any1butBrett said:

There may be another track soon if things keep gong the way they are going. In southern NY where another fun weekend is held.

Chris Larsen's OCFS.

I am excited to see what continues at OCFS, the track I grew up at.  Have almost 20 years there with my dad.

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I had a brief conversation with Gary Spaid last night about Rolling Wheels. Not good.

Rolling Wheels was Gary's favorite track and the history geek within him and his press release days for the track kept him in the know about the behind the scenes stuff we all take for granted. Gary told me that there IS a grandfathering with zoning at the track and that a year of inactivity would probably mean that the property would be rezoned back to agricultural. As much as I don't want to believe this, I almost have to because of who said it.

If this is true, it sucks!

I am editing this post because I forgot to include something else. Gary was telling me he heard that part of the front stretch wall had collapsed. If so, even a miracle of a last hour purchase makes it tough to accomplish.

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What exactly would keep the grandfather clause going? Would it have to be an official event? Or if a couple drivers just put some laps in would that satisfy it for another year? I know a lot of work would have to be done even for that, just hoping that there is some way this track survives.

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10 hours ago, dirt54 said:

What exactly would keep the grandfather clause going? Would it have to be an official event? Or if a couple drivers just put some laps in would that satisfy it for another year? I know a lot of work would have to be done even for that, just hoping that there is some way this track survives.

That's what I was wondering. Hopefully the owners care enough to at least do that much. I'd think 2 cars with paid entry and a payout along with a couple tickets sold would qualify as a racing 'event'.

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1 hour ago, macho said:

That's what I was wondering. Hopefully the owners care enough to at least do that much. I'd think 2 cars with paid entry and a payout along with a couple tickets sold would qualify as a racing 'event'.

They don't care about it....it's a big right off to counter other property they own in NYS that's making a big profit.....it is what it is.....just wave goodbye & move on

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But if it reverts back to Agriculture land and they don't use it, they could lose their tax write off.

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1 hour ago, dundeedm said:

But if it reverts back to Agriculture land and they don't use it, they could lose their tax write off.

Yeah, but it was only purchased in order to launder a lot of money so i don't believe they give a shit

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Maybe they dont care, but we all know things change in life. I just hoped they would care enough to stage some kind of 'race' to keep the clause alive. Even if it meant 2 cars driving around on a weed covered track.

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4 hours ago, racer80 said:

Yeah, but it was only purchased in order to launder a lot of money so i don't believe they give a shit

It's hard to launder money through a "race track" that can't be a race track anymore.

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