foster 891 Report post Posted August 13 and fyi, i firmly believe what you do on your own time is your business BUT, if you need to follow certain rules to keep your job you better do what you need to do to keep it that way. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FightForTheRail 2,264 Report post Posted August 13 4 hours ago, trey3kt said: Lmao. He wasn’t on it. The test goes back 30 days. So if he smoked three Wednesday’s before Eldora did it affect his driving at Eldora? I’ll hang up and listen So if the test goes back 30 days, that means he was smoking in late June or so. Telling a cop you should get out of a speeding ticket because he didn't pull you over a month ago doesn't work, either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroy 4,512 Report post Posted August 13 On 8/11/2019 at 1:43 PM, mccreadiefan939 said: Indefinite suspension from all DirtCar events (heard it was a failed drug test) What should we expect from 'indefinite'? Two weeks? Two months? or more... Back in time for Dirtweek? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rpm72x 1,456 Report post Posted August 13 I was told if he passes 2 tests prior to dirtweek he can participate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trey3kt 42 Report post Posted August 13 43 minutes ago, FightForTheRail said: So if the test goes back 30 days, that means he was smoking in late June or so. Telling a cop you should get out of a speeding ticket because he didn't pull you over a month ago doesn't work, either. What if he lives in a state or Canada where it’s legal? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh Bayko 1,620 Report post Posted August 13 5 hours ago, In the Shadows said: Damn PED's, lol. Will get you every time. Interestingly enough, I don’t think they test for that stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh Bayko 1,620 Report post Posted August 13 38 minutes ago, rpm72x said: I was told if he passes 2 tests prior to dirtweek he can participate They did that for Bloomer when he failed his piss test. He had to pass two more tests and go through a rehab program and his suspension only ended up being like two months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirt54 44 Report post Posted August 13 1 hour ago, trey3kt said: What if he lives in a state or Canada where it’s legal? I don't think this matters. It's a dirtcar rule, so it has nothing to do with what state he purchased or used it in. I could be wrong though. Also, even if all the states were to legalize it, it doesn't mean that dirtcar has to change their rules. Pretty sure they could still drug test for it and penalize a driver for using it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brian moore 715 Report post Posted August 13 If it's legal in the state or in Canada doesn't matter. If you know that it's against the rules to race with drugs in your system. Or if you know that you can be tested and have it show up in your system for a certain period of time then you have a choice to make. I know someone who had 2 job offers for doing the same job. He took the one that paid 10 grand less a year just because they didn't do random drug testing. Dumbass still tries to tell me pot doesn't hurt you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wickerman05 105 Report post Posted August 13 Leave the kid alone. Grow up, storm area 51 if you want. Admitted he made a mistake. Any of you that are still debating this , who has NEVER made a mistake that would be deemed careless, criminal, or otherwise...should continue discussing while applying for sainthood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sammie 59 Report post Posted August 13 Who gives a shit. Fans really care I don't👊🏻🤘🏻 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMiller 5,977 Report post Posted August 13 15 hours ago, RacerChick29s said: Bob, Just out of curiosity, were you able to find out who the other 4 drivers were? Actually - 15 drivers were tested at Eldora. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JazzyJeff89 314 Report post Posted August 13 6 hours ago, brian moore said: If it's legal in the state or in Canada doesn't matter. If you know that it's against the rules to race with drugs in your system. Or if you know that you can be tested and have it show up in your system for a certain period of time then you have a choice to make. I know someone who had 2 job offers for doing the same job. He took the one that paid 10 grand less a year just because they didn't do random drug testing. Dumbass still tries to tell me pot doesn't hurt you. Your last two sentences sum up why it should be legalized across the board. Its that view of it that made it so your friend had to take a job paying 10 g less. You can smoke cigs drink til your liver falls out do an 8 ball of coke on Friday pass a piss test on Tuesday that's what's fucked up. It's almost like the want you to do harder drugs. I understand rules are rules and if its their policy to compete, the drivers know it. Just like my job, I know the consequence if busted. Not saying its health food bit neither is McDonalds and that's legal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foster 891 Report post Posted August 13 8 hours ago, brian moore said: If it's legal in the state or in Canada doesn't matter. If you know that it's against the rules to race with drugs in your system. Or if you know that you can be tested and have it show up in your system for a certain period of time then you have a choice to make. I know someone who had 2 job offers for doing the same job. He took the one that paid 10 grand less a year just because they didn't do random drug testing. Dumbass still tries to tell me pot doesn't hurt you. i also work with someone that took that approach, pot is great he says , he cant remember what he had for lunch by 4pm that day or where he was the day before , but ya its good stuff lol, like i said we all have choices to make , just doesnt always mean its the best choice for that situation , sometimes you have to follow policy to get what you want in life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leakin_fluids 1,241 Report post Posted August 13 9 hours ago, trey3kt said: What if he lives in a state or Canada where it’s legal? So is growing a beard....all states and Canada... There's a bunch of jobs where you're required to be clean shaven each day in order to keep that privilege, this is no different. Don't like it, find another hobby or follow the rules like everyone else. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaGeOrGaBleBHisable 368 Report post Posted August 13 Lets just stop with all the marijuana stereotypes. Most of them are more antiquated than having a race car with a big block in it😂 To each their own, but rules are rules and must be followed to play in someone elses sandbox. Simply put. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
999 28 Report post Posted August 13 what would they have found if they tested all the drivers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
80K 60 Report post Posted August 13 If I was a racecar driver, i would be more scared of drivers on blood pressure meds, cholesterol meds, stop smoking meds, depression meds or some of the other various prescriptions that people are on than some dude that smoke some weed potentially weeks ago. No driver should be racing stoned/high. As stated above, the presence of weed in your system does not make you guilty that you are high at that moment. There needs to be better testing around this area. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B-Train 17 Report post Posted August 13 7 minutes ago, 80K said: If I was a racecar driver, i would be more scared of drivers on blood pressure meds, cholesterol meds, stop smoking meds, depression meds or some of the other various prescriptions that people are on than some dude that smoke some weed potentially weeks ago. No driver should be racing stoned/high. As stated above, the presence of weed in your system does not make you guilty that you are high at that moment. There needs to be better testing around this area. But there isn’t better testing around this area so this what has to be done until there is. These rules aren’t a secret so the driver who chooses to roll the dice must pay the price. No excuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton87 397 Report post Posted August 13 20 hours ago, trey3kt said: Lmao. He wasn’t on it. The test goes back 30 days. So if he smoked three Wednesday’s before Eldora did it affect his driving at Eldora? I’ll hang up and listen am I the only one that realizes that just because he wasn't necessarily high at the time of the test that doesn't mean he wasn't before. it was still in his system and last I checked he's been racing all summer and therefore could have been at a previous race...….not saying he was but this test will keep him from again or at least make him think twice about it next time 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper12a 1,332 Report post Posted August 13 18 hours ago, trey3kt said: What if he lives in a state or Canada where it’s legal? Even where it’s legal to smoke/take marijuana, it’s still illegal & unsafe to operate a motorized vehicle. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
80K 60 Report post Posted August 13 Illegal to drive high yes. But not illegal to drive if you smoked a week ago and its still showing in your system as the effects have worn off a week ago. Nevada was/is the first state with any common sense to pass a law stating you can no long test for weed for the majority of careers. There are some exceptions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JazzyJeff89 314 Report post Posted August 13 3 hours ago, B-Train said: But there isn’t better testing around this area so this what has to be done until there is. These rules aren’t a secret so the driver who chooses to roll the dice must pay the price. No excuses. Why isn't there. Are doctors and scientists stupid? No but they are scarred if the say something that goes against federal govt what will happen to them. Either lose their jobs or be discredited. IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JazzyJeff89 314 Report post Posted August 13 I don't know about anyone else but my job doesn't pay me on Saturday night on my couch. Or on vacation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan dan 1,266 Report post Posted August 13 Just me, but one would think in this day and age, you can blow in a tube and well your to drunk to drive, but someone hasn't figured out how to have you blow in a tube and say hey, you had to much hippy lettuce to drive right then and there. Makes no sense. Then it turns into did you have it a bit ago or last week? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites