Central New York raceway park

[Fulbrew 355]

1 hour ago, scottnorwood said:

 

I thought the re-levy would be itemized on this?

It looks like the last 3 years have been 76k, 76k, 80k.

If you still down into the county you will see it, along with town, town highway and a half dozen other things. 

The taxes weren't that bad until the assessment changed.  Ouch! 

[doober 233]

1 hour ago, leroy said:

I agree. Right or wrong.  I think Glenn actually believed that the State would give him the money.  And I think he just may have actually got it. If some of the investigations in Albany you refer to had not taken place.

after the state stuck glenn with no money, if i recall his main money backers (wight) and others jumped ship with no where for glenn to go forward

[JAR1972 144]

1 hour ago, leroy said:

I agree. Right or wrong.  I think Glenn actually believed that the State would give him the money.  And I think he just may have actually got it. If some of the investigations in Albany you refer to had not taken place.

Glenn likely would've got the State dollars had Glenn actually spent some of "his" money first.  The State indicated many times that the dollars would come once Glenn showed tangible progress on the project.

[Tortelvis 31]

I will probably get a lot of shit for this, but could Bremerton be turned into a bigger track size wise and capacity, and all the CNYRP land been used for camping and other stuff?  I love Bremerton but could it be the home of SDW, with expansion?  I'm not a logistics guy.  Thanks for not ripping on me too hard. Lol

[scottnorwood 480]

1 hour ago, Fulbrew said:

If you still down into the county you will see it, along with town, town highway and a half dozen other things. 

The taxes weren't that bad until the assessment changed.  Ouch! 

I see it now. Good point. only 50k...haha

[DaRooster 1,272]

Gotta love all the barroom accountants on here.  LOL!!

[scottnorwood 480]

6 minutes ago, DaRooster said:

Gotta love all the barroom accountants on here.  LOL!!

my bad on the re-levy. Usually it shows as a separate line on tax bill. Although I only am usually looking at tax delinquent properties..haha.

The write off comment reminds me of this scene:

 

[JMB 88]

Wasn't it originally thought the track could be financed mostly off the the sale of the "SYNDI" synthetic dirt?  Then the SYNDI ended up being something that would not work very well for auto racing dirt surfaces

[ranger22 386]

1 hour ago, doober said:

after the state stuck glenn with no money, if i recall his main money backers (wight) and others jumped ship with no where for glenn to go forward

Why would you back somebody that didn't want to put up any of their own money anyway. The state didn't stick Glenn with no money, it was always he had to put up his own first.

[con7 803]

2 hours ago, ranger22 said:

Why would you back somebody that didn't want to put up any of their own money anyway. The state didn't stick Glenn with no money, it was always he had to put up his own first.

If I recall correctly it was tens of millions he said he needed as well to build the whole complex. I think most have realized this whole thing was a pipe dream from the start.

[scottnorwood 480]

3 minutes ago, con7 said:

If I recall correctly it was tens of millions he said he needed as well to build the whole complex. I think most have realized this whole thing was a pipe dream from the start.

I knew the first time I saw that logo and sign....

 

 

[jwin 245]

17 minutes ago, scottnorwood said:

I knew the first time I saw that logo and sign....

 

 

There was an even worse first version of the logo that used the very standard brush script font. I can't get it to upload (sidebar, why is the file attachment size limit 22kb???) 

But I agree, seeing that it was very amateurish.  

[scottnorwood 480]

Just now, jwin said:

There was an even worse first version of the logo that used the very standard brush script font. I can't get it to upload (sidebar, why is the file attachment size limit 22kb???) 

But I agree, seeing that it was very amateurish.  

oooh... I didn't see brushstroke one...do you have a link?

[Josh Bayko 1,727]

The track was never going to get built. The project was way too ambitious and had no legitimate shot from day one. 

I don’t know how anybody thought this was ever going to be reality. 

[jwin 245]

50 minutes ago, scottnorwood said:

oooh... I didn't see brushstroke one...do you have a link?

https://www.facebook.com/CNYRP/

[con7 803]

My favorite was the video update from a few years back that showed Donnelly walking the facility intending to show the progress they had made, which only showed how far they had to go.

[WheelsUpHammerDown10 1,637]

Where is our buddy Jon Lehmann who was officially/unofficially working PR for CNYRP trying to let us all know that the project was SO close to being complete and kept stringing everyone along for 2-3 years.

[doober 233]

it's a done deal, has been. why keep beating the guy up. racing was in his blood he lives for it as well as it is in ours now. we all have a dream, some dream big, some small. i think he's been raked over the coals enough don't you?

 

[WMR Racing 180]

Like him or not still have to respect the man for what he gave us. I didn’t agree with everything Glenn did but I have many great memories at super dirt week and other DIRT races!!  If it wasn’t for Glenn would we have the racing or drivers we have or had thru the years.  Hard to say.  Everyone has a dream some reach those dreams others don’t. Glenn’s first dream came true bringing us the DIRT series. The second dream of the track just didn’t work out. But hey at least he tried. 

[rpm72x 2,305]

8 hours ago, WMR Racing said:

Like him or not still have to respect the man for what he gave us. I didn’t agree with everything Glenn did but I have many great memories at super dirt week and other DIRT races!!  If it wasn’t for Glenn would we have the racing or drivers we have or had thru the years.  Hard to say.  Everyone has a dream some reach those dreams others don’t. Glenn’s first dream came true bringing us the DIRT series. The second dream of the track just didn’t work out. But hey at least he tried. 

100% correct. Without Glenn we don’t have modified racing. He created everything we enjoy today. It was all a whole lot better when he was in control as well. 

[Outlaw Photos 2,297]

13 hours ago, Josh Bayko said:

The track was never going to get built. The project was way too ambitious and had no legitimate shot from day one. 

I don’t know how anybody thought this was ever going to be reality. 

Josh.. 

you would be suprised at the people who drank the Kool aid on this....   

 

[Outlaw Photos 2,297]

13 hours ago, jwin said:

https://www.facebook.com/CNYRP/

you would have thought someone would have taken that page down by now...

[JAR1972 144]

On 12/7/2020 at 11:29 AM, DaRooster said:

Gotta love all the barroom accountants on here.  LOL!!

Some on here might actually be good with numbers!

[Jack Brady 474]

If you go back you will see everything pretty much went stagnant after Donnelly's project wasn't chosen as one of the projects to receive a gambling license. Though they said the gambling wasn't important to the project, I still think it was the main goal. With Casino and Horse betting they would of had tons of money coming in to build the rest. Once they lost that bid, that is pretty much when everything else slowed down then halted. The road course would of made some money for them in the long run. But the dirt track really wouldn't of made much money with mod racing. I think the dirt track was just to get people hyped up on the whole concept. Syndi was actually designed for horse tracks but Glenn thought "hey why not try to race mods on it also?" Also remember the oval track was originally said to be 3/4 of a mile. Then was changed to a 1/2 mile.

There were millions of dollars spent up to the point they lost their bid for the gambling license. It doesn't take millions to do what they did at the current location. The majority of that money was all spent in Albany. (My Opinion).

[Outlaw Photos 2,297]

3 hours ago, Jack Brady said:

If you go back you will see everything pretty much went stagnant after Donnelly's project wasn't chosen as one of the projects to receive a gambling license. Though they said the gambling wasn't important to the project, I still think it was the main goal. With Casino and Horse betting they would of had tons of money coming in to build the rest. Once they lost that bid, that is pretty much when everything else slowed down then halted. The road course would of made some money for them in the long run. But the dirt track really wouldn't of made much money with mod racing. I think the dirt track was just to get people hyped up on the whole concept. Syndi was actually designed for horse tracks but Glenn thought "hey why not try to race mods on it also?" Also remember the oval track was originally said to be 3/4 of a mile. Then was changed to a 1/2 mile.

There were millions of dollars spent up to the point they lost their bid for the gambling license. It doesn't take millions to do what they did at the current location. The majority of that money was all spent in Albany. (My Opinion).

You could be right.   Someone will talk at some point...