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3 hours ago, Orion56rs said:

Anyone know why the 33 was DQ last night...he has to to be the hottest sportsman driver out the right now

Matt is a good looking guy no doubt about it. Not sure he is not the hottest sportsman driver out there though.

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Assuming it's the Rev box I'm gonna guess now that the whole car is brand new but he bought a used rev box and had no clue it was cheated. 

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From what I heard the box was set to 9000….it wasn’t that the box was tampered with, somebody either deliberately re-set it or set it incorrectly. Supposedly there was some concern of why the hood was off and tech guys around the car with no members of the 33xteam present. They park right across from the tech building I believe. I have zero reason to believe there was anything shady going on, but I have zero reason to believe the last 20 times he has went through tech many of which were wins at various tracks….that no other tech guys seen that the box was set incorrectly. He already had his engine pulled at Fulton, and being that he uses Donath Motors now….Fulton tech is all over that thing like flies on shit weekly. There was a mistake made or someone deliberately set the box….it hasn’t been that way every night. My money is on him to win tonight. 

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I can assure everyone that Matt is not cheating!! I was his main sponsor for 4 years and have been around him and his shop for many years.  Never ever had there been talk about cheating.  The kid has been straight up and can drive a car plus he does his homework in the shop every night.  Trust me we used to out in the shop till midnight just bouncing ideas off each other trying to get faster. Before my business name goes on a car one of the first conversations is ripping my name off the car if cheating is deliberately being done.  If anyone has been around a rev box a clump of mud or a rock can move the dials.  Same thing happened to Kevin Root at devils bowl last year. My opinion get rid of rev boxes all together in every class.  Last i checked a 305 or a 360 sprint car doesn’t run a rev box.  The talk about not being around the car when being at tech that’s on the driver and crew but a track isn’t going to deliberately do something to a car to make it fail.  There is to many cameras these days to take a chance doing something like that.  If a tech guy got caught doing something like that no car would ever run there.  

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1 hour ago, WMR Racing said:

I can assure everyone that Matt is not cheating!! I was his main sponsor for 4 years and have been around him and his shop for many years.  Never ever had there been talk about cheating.  The kid has been straight up and can drive a car plus he does his homework in the shop every night.  Trust me we used to out in the shop till midnight just bouncing ideas off each other trying to get faster. Before my business name goes on a car one of the first conversations is ripping my name off the car if cheating is deliberately being done.  If anyone has been around a rev box a clump of mud or a rock can move the dials.  Same thing happened to Kevin Root at devils bowl last year. My opinion get rid of rev boxes all together in every class.  Last i checked a 305 or a 360 sprint car doesn’t run a rev box.  The talk about not being around the car when being at tech that’s on the driver and crew but a track isn’t going to deliberately do something to a car to make it fail.  There is to many cameras these days to take a chance doing something like that.  If a tech guy got caught doing something like that no car would ever run there.  

You're kidding right?

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16 hours ago, scottnorwood said:

Matt is a good looking guy no doubt about it. Not sure he is not the hottest sportsman driver out there though.

Go for it, name names.

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6 hours ago, WMR Racing said:

I can assure everyone that Matt is not cheating!! I was his main sponsor for 4 years and have been around him and his shop for many years.  Never ever had there been talk about cheating.  The kid has been straight up and can drive a car plus he does his homework in the shop every night.  Trust me we used to out in the shop till midnight just bouncing ideas off each other trying to get faster. Before my business name goes on a car one of the first conversations is ripping my name off the car if cheating is deliberately being done.  If anyone has been around a rev box a clump of mud or a rock can move the dials.  Same thing happened to Kevin Root at devils bowl last year. My opinion get rid of rev boxes all together in every class.  Last i checked a 305 or a 360 sprint car doesn’t run a rev box.  The talk about not being around the car when being at tech that’s on the driver and crew but a track isn’t going to deliberately do something to a car to make it fail.  There is to many cameras these days to take a chance doing something like that.  If a tech guy got caught doing something like that no car would ever run there.  

Just so I understand correctly, you believe a clump of mud or rock is responsible?  No one is saying (whatever the infraction was) they did it on purpose.

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10 hours ago, WMR Racing said:

I can assure everyone that Matt is not cheating!! I was his main sponsor for 4 years and have been around him and his shop for many years.  Never ever had there been talk about cheating.  The kid has been straight up and can drive a car plus he does his homework in the shop every night.  Trust me we used to out in the shop till midnight just bouncing ideas off each other trying to get faster. Before my business name goes on a car one of the first conversations is ripping my name off the car if cheating is deliberately being done.  If anyone has been around a rev box a clump of mud or a rock can move the dials.  Same thing happened to Kevin Root at devils bowl last year. My opinion get rid of rev boxes all together in every class.  Last i checked a 305 or a 360 sprint car doesn’t run a rev box.  The talk about not being around the car when being at tech that’s on the driver and crew but a track isn’t going to deliberately do something to a car to make it fail.  There is to many cameras these days to take a chance doing something like that.  If a tech guy got caught doing something like that no car would ever run there.  

Well you certainly sound unbiased lol. 

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12 hours ago, WMR Racing said:

I can assure everyone that Matt is not cheating!! I was his main sponsor for 4 years and have been around him and his shop for many years.  Never ever had there been talk about cheating.  The kid has been straight up and can drive a car plus he does his homework in the shop every night.  Trust me we used to out in the shop till midnight just bouncing ideas off each other trying to get faster. Before my business name goes on a car one of the first conversations is ripping my name off the car if cheating is deliberately being done.  If anyone has been around a rev box a clump of mud or a rock can move the dials.  Same thing happened to Kevin Root at devils bowl last year. My opinion get rid of rev boxes all together in every class.  Last i checked a 305 or a 360 sprint car doesn’t run a rev box.  The talk about not being around the car when being at tech that’s on the driver and crew but a track isn’t going to deliberately do something to a car to make it fail.  There is to many cameras these days to take a chance doing something like that.  If a tech guy got caught doing something like that no car would ever run there.  

I would just say that most people that are cheating don't verbalize with other people around. If they must they typically use sign language. Did you see any sign language being used? Something like this: 🤏🖖👈🤙.....also this one can be a dead give away for cheaters:🤞

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On 7/10/2021 at 10:54 PM, WMR Racing said:

I can assure everyone that Matt is not cheating!! I was his main sponsor for 4 years and have been around him and his shop for many years.  Never ever had there been talk about cheating.  The kid has been straight up and can drive a car plus he does his homework in the shop every night.  Trust me we used to out in the shop till midnight just bouncing ideas off each other trying to get faster. Before my business name goes on a car one of the first conversations is ripping my name off the car if cheating is deliberately being done.  If anyone has been around a rev box a clump of mud or a rock can move the dials.  Same thing happened to Kevin Root at devils bowl last year. My opinion get rid of rev boxes all together in every class.  Last i checked a 305 or a 360 sprint car doesn’t run a rev box.  The talk about not being around the car when being at tech that’s on the driver and crew but a track isn’t going to deliberately do something to a car to make it fail.  There is to many cameras these days to take a chance doing something like that.  If a tech guy got caught doing something like that no car would ever run there.  

If the box was set at 9000 and the rules call for 6000 setting my question is don’t they have tachometers in the cars any longer? Don’t you think that the driver would notice the difference in sound of the motor? That is 50% more rpm’s then allowed.

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Wait.....did it get posted up there that mud changes the setting on a rev box?  Sheeesh what kind of magic mud yall got, with fingers and tools and all?    

I can see it being an "accident" i guess, but who just randomly sets their box to 9000 in the shop then forgets to set it back for the weekend?  Seems odd to me, but it also seems like something that nobody in their right mind would try to cheat with because its so easy to catch.  

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I'm not a genius but I gotta believe the guy pushing the go pedal would hafta  notice something a bit different or off in a lap or 2. And keep It calmed down a touch. 6 to 9 is a hell of a difference 

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First of all just because the box was set at 9000 doesn’t mean he would have ever turned it 9000. That’s a rev limiter. There’s not a 602 crate engine in the world capable of turning 9000 rpms? The shitbox rotating assembly and valve train would have been sitting on the racetrack 1500 rpms prior. Nobody is going to deliberately cheat that part of the car, it is visually inspected everytime you go across the scales. Being that Matt crosses them multiple times a night usually….my guess is he would have been caught by now. If it was an accident and he didn’t realize it was set there, he would not know in the car. He didn’t miraculously add 60 points of gear at the same time, most guys buzz the chip just at the end of the straightaway. Maybe he realized he wasn’t hitting it, maybe he didn’t. Not a hell of a lot you can do about it once your racing. There’s a Facebook post claiming that he turned it less than 6000 based off of the teltac. Idk. I do however think that he has won enough races to know that if I set the rev limiter 3000 rpms higher than the rule, and they look at it every night…I’m gunna get caught. Do any of you honestly think someone is going to set the box at 9000……and then go win the race? Knowing that part is going to get checked? Just believing that is a level of stupidity that can only be reached on this forum. 

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Is this over?? was the box impounded and sent to MSD?? at one time tampering was a 1 year suspension. Honestly the only reason to tamper with the box is if the motor itself was tampered with as well. That 33 car is fast everywhere, even put a whipping on the LOL boys on their home turf.

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21 minutes ago, racerguy said:

Is this over?? was the box impounded and sent to MSD?? at one time tampering was a 1 year suspension. Honestly the only reason to tamper with the box is if the motor itself was tampered with as well. That 33 car is fast everywhere, even put a whipping on the LOL boys on their home turf.

Exactly…..there little to no advantage to turn those engines any harder if they are legal…..being that he just had his engine pulled and checked at Fulton and it was legal….I’m guessing he’s not worried about turning a crate engine 9000 rpms. But It’s funny as hell to listen to the engine experts. 

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I think I'm right in the fact that the rev limiter is partially to stop the idiots from knowingly turning too many rpm and blowing them up themselves.

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2 hours ago, rpm72x said:

First of all just because the box was set at 9000 doesn’t mean he would have ever turned it 9000. That’s a rev limiter. There’s not a 602 crate engine in the world capable of turning 9000 rpms? The shitbox rotating assembly and valve train would have been sitting on the racetrack 1500 rpms prior. Nobody is going to deliberately cheat that part of the car, it is visually inspected everytime you go across the scales. Being that Matt crosses them multiple times a night usually….my guess is he would have been caught by now. If it was an accid nt and he didn’t realize it was set there, he would not know in the car. He didn’t miraculously add 60 points of gear at the same time, most guys buzz the chip just at the end of the straightaway. Maybe he realized he wasn’t hitting it, maybe he didn’t. Not a hell of a lot you can do about it once your racing. There’s a Facebook post claiming that he turned it less than 6000 based off of the teltac. Idk. I do however think that he has won enough races to know that if I set the rev limiter 3000 rpms higher than the rule, and they look at it every night…I’m gunna get caught. Do any of you honestly think someone is going to set the box at 9000……and then go win the race? Knowing that part is going to get checked? Just believing that is a level of stupidity that can only be reached on this forum. 

If you are going to cheat up a crate sportsman you do it by lightening up every rotating part.....including the crankshaft which NOBODY checks

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1 hour ago, rpm72x said:

Exactly…..there little to no advantage to turn those engines any harder if they are legal…..being that he just had his engine pulled and checked at Fulton and it was legal….I’m guessing he’s not worried about turning a crate engine 9000 rpms. But It’s funny as hell to listen to the engine experts. 

Unless they remove & weigh the crank I don't see how they can deem a motor legal

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1 minute ago, racer80 said:

If you are going to heat up a crate sportsman you do it by lightening up every rotating part.....including the crankshaft which NOBODY checks

I don’t care what crankshaft you stick in a crate engine…..the rest of the parts will not hold up to high rpms. Not to mention, when they dyno the engine it’s not just a peak horsepower number they are looking at. Not just a peak torque number. The engine has to build both at a reasonably equal rate as a legal crate. Those numbers are graphed. You can’t build torque or hp at 1000 rpms earlier or peak hp. So idc if your buying a Bryant crankshaft, aluminum rods, lightened pistons etc…..if the engine builds the same hp, same torque at the same rate as a stock crate, you wasted a shitload of money. 

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