MikeMallett Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I had a chance to chat with Glenn Donnelly one-on-one about the test at Brewerton Speedway on May 10. I apologize the interview is rough around the edges as we had some cell phones ringing other things but I wanted the folks here at DTD to get a chance to get it here before anywhere else. I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching. Hot lap number one from Brewerton on 5/10/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton_Geoffrey Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Great Job Mallett! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ross Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 From the video of the cars on track it doesn't seem like there was much bite. Great work, Mike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton_Geoffrey Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Track owners Like Randy Williamson at Merrittville will be the first to tell you that dry slick is better for racing as long it is not dusty. When it is too tacking cars get tore up and everyone is really "too fast." A smooth slick track with no dust sounds like a winner to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winger Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Great information. I've been waiting to hear how this turns out. It will be interesting to see how it races and how it reacts to rain. I also noticed Glenn said they put 2" of the material down. That really doesn't seem like much, particularly if it gets pushed up. Then they'll be down to the dirt and dust. Did I hear it correctly? Thanks for posting. I've already shared the link with some of the Florida race boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Avenengo Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 AARRGGHH! The sound of tires squealing on what looks like a dirt track! Nevertheless, there was no dust. Should be interesting to see how it holds up with about 22 or 24 "ground pounders" on it, going full bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Images By DC Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 70 grand is a big investment, what is the longevity of the product? Good interview Mike, glad I wasnt the one calling you! LOL. DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Reynolds Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I'm glad someone else besides me as heard that dang ringtone on Mallett's phone!! Of course it had to be the one and only Glenn Donnelly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ross Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I'm all for dry-slick, but not if it costs teams a set or two of tires a night. Clint - this will be something great to fight about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dans30thta Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I think I remember years ago at Weedsport I used to hear that tire scuffing(squealing) noise. Brewerton is nice & smooth from the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsUpHammerDown10 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I'm all for dry-slick, but not if it costs teams a set or two of tires a night. Clint - this will be something great to fight about! THIS. Enough with the dust argument. It's dirt track racing. It should be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallguy Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 When dust totally impairs a fan's ability to watch in comfort (or worse, is causing a hazard to the drivers) it needs to be addressed. I remember an earlier experiment using something called 'road bind', which was a liquid that was added to a dirt surface in hopes of eliminating dust...it didn't work as well as expected, as it caused major tire wear issues when it was applied at CCFS for a Sunday night event a few years back. I also believe (can't confirm this) that Glenn dug into his pocket and bought all competitors a right rear tire and totally reworked the track to try and minimize any further damage prior to starting the night's race. It's good to see something like this not just being talked about, but being tested, and 'setting the track' for feature conditions (i.e. worst case scenario) is a good way to acquire some data and be able to make adjustments for wear and surface conditions. Something key here: If you can make conditions and amenities friendly to the wives/girlfriends/significant others of the world, you're going to get more fans in the stands... Certainly has people here talking, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rabbitt Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I just wonder about 4 things really... 1.Even if the tire wear isnt bad with the 50, it is getting to hot, so how are the tires going to fair after the heat cycles... Just because it doesn't wear them doesn't mean it wont hurt them, and if it takes new tires to win because they seal over or the heat cycles lowers their effectiveness, your just as screwed as if you wear it out. 2. So it doesn't take a lot of water to prepare... what happens when its to wet? IE Watering it to much, or that mid-show 10 minutes rain shower. So theres no dust, but when it rains and stops and you have to cancel because you cant work it, whats the use? Dust will still get some fans, cancellations get none. 3. I know its not muddy "feature conditions", but when its wet, and it sticks to cars, how much fun is the stuff going to be to try and get off the cars? I can't imagine any wax like or wax based product getting into say, the fins of a radiator, to be a whole lot of fun to clean out.. If its more abrasive on tires, image when its in the moving components on cars. 4. And #4.. What is this stuff, and whats its environmental impact? Will it /biodegrade/decay? If yes, does it smell? If a track smells like a state campground bathroom on a hot summer day, would you want to go there? And if yes, how long does it take to decay? 70 grand is a pretty steep investment if that 2 or 3 inches only lasts a season or less. Im sure they've thought of a lot of these questions in the development of the product... But actually... I just have another thought... #5. If its less to prepare, it means it in theory should be more consistent. If its more consistent, the racing will suffer. Is half the fun of dirt racing the fact your constantly chasing the race track, and not just the changes in the car during the course of a feature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Farone Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I think the CVRA has figured out the dust problem Maybe Brewerton can call them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan dan Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 i think its more or less trial and error just like everything else til they get it figured out. as far as dust up until the last few years i didnt care what track i was at and how dusty id stay til the end, now if its so dusty you cant see the cars in front of you ill leave. same with caution after caution after caution, i used to stay now i just say ive had enough and leave. maybe its a part of getting older? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMiller Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I think the CVRA has figured out the dust problem. Maybe Brewerton can call them. I'll behave myself, in spite of coming up with a good one liner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas71 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Let's say it works great, that means we have improvement in dirt racing. Let's say it doesn't work, well, you go back to what we have now. I'm not sure I see the downside to trying something to make things better. Geez, I can think of alot of tracks that have tried to solve the dust problem. I still miss Flemington. Hopefully someday someone will find the solution. I know one thing, if no one tries, we'll never find the solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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