pbutter16x Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 See this is what you people do not know. In the winter Tyler was in Charlotte winning Legends car races. This is where nascar wanna be's start. This ride was offered to him off of his showing down there. He even raced with a broken leg this winter. You people say bringing money to the table is everything. Not true who is going to keep you in a ride if you are no good? Your money will run out if you aren't making anything back because you stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeelToeHD Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Good for him, no matter who it is, Thumbs up for anyone in this general area to be making a name for themselves at such a young age, Kid can wheel a car for sure. Hopefully everything works out for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana cognac Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 See this is what you people do not know. In the winter Tyler was in Charlotte winning Legends car races. This is where nascar wanna be's start. This ride was offered to him off of his showing down there. He even raced with a broken leg this winter. You people say bringing money to the table is everything. Not true who is going to keep you in a ride if you are no good? Your money will run out if you aren't making anything back because you stink. Would you care to elaborate on the amount he raced, and the races he won? I definitely think the dude can drive, he came from 10th to finish 2nd at OCFS two weeks ago and looked extremely strong. And he looks strong everywhere he goes. It'll be interesting to see how he does, but I'm in agreement with other posters about getting a ride in NASCAR country costing a hefty chunk of change and that a lot of guys who can compete at that level do so because they have the financial ability. In all seriousness, who was the last driver to make it to the big show that was truly discovered based off of talent? Clint Boyer maybe? I really don't have the answer to that question. It's no knock on Dippel, but running a couple successful seasons in a sportsman doesn't really translate to running successfully in an asphalt late model. I'm excited to see how he does, and wish his team the best of luck. It would be cool to see someone local gain some national notoriety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONRACN Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 If you have enough talent the money will find you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicknell27h Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 and if you have enough money, that is your talent...... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRice Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Let's not give the kid too big of shoes to fill at age 15 guys. He drives for a high dollar operation, and with great set-ups in the car every night (the car is great through the corners compared to others in the sportsmans). Apparently he can drive so i'm not knocking that. But a lot of drivers put in those cars would be doing the same thing. It's just that he's 15 that it's a big deal. So let's hold off all the Nascar talk for now. Not hating, just being realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsJags14 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 i find it odd with how many races pappa has won in the legend and what he has won in the crate modified that he didnt get this offer but dippel, when i, like many others never even heard of dippel until i found out on here that he had been running illegally at lvs. to me hes a young kid with money and some talent, nascar teams saw this and decide to bring him in to develop him, whether it actually become anything serious is more of a coin flip and that coin wont be landing for a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger13 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 i find it odd with how many races pappa has won in the legend and what he has won in the crate modified that he didnt get this offer but dippel, when i, like many others never even heard of dippel until i found out on here that he had been running illegally at lvs. to me hes a young kid with money and some talent, nascar teams saw this and decide to bring him in to develop him, whether it actually become anything serious is more of a coin flip and that coin wont be landing for a few years I like Pappa as a driver but when he runs against Dippel at Lebanon Pappa is clearly not nearly as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaGeOrGaBleBHisable Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Only a handful of races on dirt compared to a few seasons on dirt shows. I'd put money on Pappa giving Dippel a lesson on how to drive a legend car. Pappa put it on its lid in heats Saturday and still had a decent showing in the feature. I bet Matt Yearns pockets have a few more"Ty-dollars" than Pappa cash in them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger13 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Only a handful of races on dirt compared to a few seasons on dirt shows. I'd put money on Pappa giving Dippel a lesson on how to drive a legend car. Pappa put it on its lid in heats Saturday and still had a decent showing in the feature. I bet Matt Yearns pockets have a few more"Ty-dollars" than Pappa cash in them too I wouldn't pick against Pappa in a legend car but in a budget sportsman Dippel came through the field and passed Pappa after a hard crash. If he didn't get nudged into the wall coming out of turn 2 Dippel would likely of finished in the top 5. I am also willing to bet with Pappa's car being Hearn's it is likely just as good as Dippel's so equipment shouldn't be much of a factor in comparing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRice Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Theres nothing "budget" about that sportsman ride except the crate, we all know crate motors are getting more work done to them than they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#32BillyButtons Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I don't really care either way, nor do I know anyone involved - In fact, I've never even seen this kid race, but what I will say from firsthand knowledge and experience is that the landscape "Down South" has changed bigtime in the last 10 years - It's all about money. My grandma could get a "driver development deal" if she brought money. None of these teams are "scouting talent" like they used to (and even if they were, let's be realistic here - With no disrespect intended to Mr Dippel, I highly doubt that they would be scouting talent in an entry level "budget sportsman" division) - Now they're "scouting money", and anyone with enough money can negotiate a top 15 truck or nationwide ride regardless of their resume. There are plenty of experienced, winning Nascar drivers on the sidelines who have been displaced by guys with little or no experience due to this. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from following their dreams, I'm just trying to be realistic here. The competition level between sportsman and modified is not even close. In my experience, in sportsman you can come in and"buy wins", whereas in modified you just can't do that because you're running a slick track every week against guys with 1000+ races under their belts. If you can win lots of sportsman races, good on you, but I think it's laughable to think that winning a handful of sportsman races prepares anyone for success"down South". I have won lots of local 360 races and then raced in world of outlaw sprint car races and the competition difference is beyond comprehension - Those guys are beyond good, and how many of those guys have ever been successful"down South"? Again, I'm not being a "hater", I'm just trying to be realistic here. Good on this kid for having the resources to chase his dreams, but I don't think it's fair to expect much from him anytime soon, nor do I think it's fair to "pretend" that his driving talent resulted in him being "pursued" by teams down South. Dippel has a full sponsorship driving down south. They didn't have to fork out any money at all for this so I've been told. Several teams have had their eye on him for over a year now I heard and if you've never seen him drive a modified then you really need to get to a track and watch this kid. It's truley unbelievable. He also drives down south in the winter on asphalt and blows those guys away too. So, "money or talent" you say? If you've never seen him wheel a car then how can you even make such a ignorant comment like that? Stupid ppl SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#32BillyButtons Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I totally agree with the gunslinger ryan hunsinger. he is dead nuts on about money. heres a few names..... coleman gullick thought he was supposed to be the next young thing...... danny samons thought he was ON HIS WAY..... tim mcreadie........ ABSOLUTLY NO DISREPECT but the reason I use t mac is when he won th WoO rookie title and then the WoO championship. he got a "deal" with Richard Childress. when even he with the emense talent he has, could not bring money, how long was it before t mac was no longer driving a RCR car? not sure about J J racing background but he did race stadium trucks. but TONY STEWART won TONS of USAC RACING and one of few to win usac triple crown points championships in one year(one of the other is his current cup driver ryan newman) and neither one were under the age of 16 when they went "down south". everyone talks about the $$$$$ the dipple dippel dippell family, however you spell it, has. he has won ZERO CHAMPIONSHIPS in sportsman 358 mod any other class. perhaps they finaly came to an agreement on how much money tyler is gonna bring is the deal they have been working on. not a hater just ryan is right........ Dippel does not run for championships anywhere. He runs tracks all over the counrty to get experience and seat time and to gain experience on how to read different tracks. Doinga pretty dam good job at it too. If your running a track every single week and your not championship or at least top 5 then maybe a different career might be a good idea. His times at I-88 last night were better than some of the northeast best. Freisen and Danny Johnson just to name a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerguy Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Only time will tell, but I am not thinking we are dealing with the next Jimmie Johnson or Tony Stewart here, Matt Sheppard had more success early in his sportsman and modified career than this kid, heck Matt won his 1st ever Modified race, and a track title in his 1st modified season. People get caught up in the fact he is 15, well IMO that is a product of the times and yes a product of his "funding", Just because he is having success at a young age means nothing, it is not as if he is racing locally because of his talent it is because of his "funding". As I started out saying time will tell on this, some of you have this kid starting the Daytona 500 in a couple seasons, it is possible but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlssefi Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I wouldn't pick against Pappa in a legend car but in a budget sportsman Dippel came through the field and passed Pappa after a hard crash. If he didn't get nudged into the wall coming out of turn 2 Dippel would likely of finished in the top 5. I am also willing to bet with Pappa's car being Hearn's it is likely just as good as Dippel's so equipment shouldn't be much of a factor in comparing them. Get nudged coming out of turn 2?????????? He put him self in the turn 2 wall after he turned right into the zero car . Saw it from 30 feet away, in my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Photos Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 See this is what you people do not know. In the winter Tyler was in Charlotte winning Legends car races. This is where nascar wanna be's start. This ride was offered to him off of his showing down there. He even raced with a broken leg this winter. You people say bringing money to the table is everything. Not true who is going to keep you in a ride if you are no good? Your money will run out if you aren't making anything back because you stink. Sorry PButter... but we have an elephant in the room by the name of Danica.... she's at 8 plus years and still going.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterwagon Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Whether it is money, talent or both. If he has his foot in door, that is the first step. Look at Buckshot Jones, Brendan Gaughn. Both have wealthy familys. Both had varying degrees of success. You got to be in the game to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger13 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Get nudged coming out of turn 2?????????? He put him self in the turn 2 wall after he turned right into the zero car . Saw it from 30 feet away, in my car. It sure looked like the zero drifted into Dippel. The zero was drifting each time he came out of the corner for his last 3 or 4 laps before he finally hit the wall as well. That aside whether he hit him or not Dippel still passed over half the field in a few laps after a fairly major incident that had him pit and come back to the rear with his car resembling a topless crupled beer can. I was actually a bit surprised they let him back out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke81 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Whether it is money, talent or both. If he has his foot in door, that is the first step. Look at Buckshot Jones, Brendan Gaughn. Both have wealthy familys. Both had varying degrees of success. You got to be in the game to play. And we can't forget Jon Wes Townley. I think he was personally responsible for price increases as Zaxby's because his dad had to pay for so many destroyed race cars when he was in nationwide. Or Josh Richards and John Blankenship racing in trucks. If you've got the money the teams will put you in a ride. But I hope this kid does well, and wish him all the luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRice Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Dippel does not run for championships anywhere. He runs tracks all over the counrty to get experience and seat time and to gain experience on how to read different tracks. Doinga pretty dam good job at it too. If your running a track every single week and your not championship or at least top 5 then maybe a different career might be a good idea. His times at I-88 last night were better than some of the northeast best. Freisen and Danny Johnson just to name a couple. Friesen and Danny were also non factors in that race like Dipple............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanhunsinger Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Great post Billy - I'm the stupid one here just because I spoke the truth? I don't need to see anyone wheel a car to know that it's laughable to think that winning a few sportsman races makes you a top shelf driver who is being pursued by southern pavement teams. I know fron experience that there are alotta struggling pavement teams out there who will literally take money from anyone - I wanted to find a nationwide ride for the Montreal road course eace 2-3 years ago and every single team I talked to only cared about $- I would bet you everything that I have in life that he will have to bring money to turn a single race lap in that car, which equates to him buying a ride as opposed to him being "pursued" because of his talents. Again, good on him for winning the gene pool lottery at birth and having family money, but let's call a spade a spade. Nice try though.Dippel has a full sponsorship driving down south. They didn't have to fork out any money at all for this so I've been told. Several teams have had their eye on him for over a year now I heard and if you've never seen him drive a modified then you really need to get to a track and watch this kid. It's truley unbelievable. He also drives down south in the winter on asphalt and blows those guys away too. So, "money or talent" you say? If you've never seen him wheel a car then how can you even make such a ignorant comment like that? Stupid ppl SMH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanhunsinger Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 It also makes zero sense that someone would be "signed to a deal" in mid June but is not driving in any races until next year (this year is only practice???). That makes no sense to me whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Avenengo Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Dippel is leaving tomorrow (Sunday AM) for Carolina. Debuts Wednesday at Anderson (SC) Motor Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndenyse Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 yea he was a mess at i-88 ..... he was really fast he could pick threw the field pretty decent but i think he was involved in every caution...he must have spun around 5-6 times collecting other cars along the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Ross Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 He is driving a second car for Dave Moody's late model team.They are supposed to have a sponser announcment this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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