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Well, if you haven't seen a SDS race in years, you've missed out on some great racing, excluding SDW last year of course. Though it was kind of exciting to see who was going to survive the 200.

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I  may not agree with how SDS runs their show.  But I am a spectator, not a team owner or racer. Their rules do not effect me any.

I have no issue attending SDS events.  I do not go to nearly as many SDS as I once did several years ago.  I like many different series, many different tracks.  But I plan on hitting 2 to 4 SDS events this season.   Canandaigua being an obvious choice  ,15 minute drive from my home.  Big Diamond and Lebanon Valley being two of SDS that I am considering traveling to this season.

When I choose whether or not to go to the races ,it is not always just about what 'series' is racing.  There are a lot of other things to consider.   What track? , when the race is scheduled? ,family obligations being just a few

 

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7 minutes ago, leroy said:

I  may not agree with how SDS runs their show.  But I am a spectator, not a team owner or racer. Their rules do not effect me any.

I have no issue attending SDS events.  I do not go to nearly as many SDS as I once did several years ago.  I like many different series, many different tracks.  But I plan on hitting 2 to 4 SDS events this season.   Canandaigua being an obvious choice  ,15 minute drive from my home.  Big Diamond and Lebanon Valley being two of SDS that I am considering traveling to this season.

When I choose whether or not to go to the races ,it is not always just about what 'series' is racing.  There are a lot of other things to consider.   What track? , when the race is scheduled? ,family obligations being just a few

 

Although I have not missed to many STSS shows the last couple of years, I'm with you. I try to plan my trips and shows to attend what Races I believe will be the biggest bang for my excitement. I don't really care what series or track its at. Just give us a great show is all I ever ask !!!!! 

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2 hours ago, leroy said:

When I choose whether or not to go to the races ,it is not always just about what 'series' is racing.  There are a lot of other things to consider.   What track? , when the race is scheduled? ,family obligations being just a few

 

2 hours ago, Towman said:

Although I have not missed to many STSS shows the last couple of years, I'm with you. I try to plan my trips and shows to attend what Races I believe will be the biggest bang for my excitement. I don't really care what series or track its at. Just give us a great show is all I ever ask !!!!! 

Well these very logical reasons are really taking the Viagra out of this weiner stretching contest between which series is better.😂 🌭

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Series Snobs crack me up.

From a fan's standpoint, to me it's way more important how a track races vs. the format used.

I don't recall seeing fans leaving disappointed after the SDS races at Malta and Bridgeport the last few years. No matter what series runs there, those tracks just produce entertaining racing. 

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37 minutes ago, Sicklajoie said:

Series Snobs crack me up.

From a fan's standpoint, to me it's way more important how a track races vs. the format used.

I don't recall seeing fans leaving disappointed after the SDS races at Malta and Bridgeport the last few years. No matter what series runs there, those tracks just produce entertaining racing. 

If I eliminate going to time trial races.  That would eliminate Lucas Oil and USAC .   Two of my favorites. 

Draw races are better for the fan. To see the best teams draw bad and start in the rear.  But I do not care enough not to go to a race just because of a time trial format..

Personally, IF a series uses time trials ,I would rather watch single qualifying vs group . I like to hear and see individual cars get on and of the throttle. Group qualifying is like watching hot laps.   If they are going to do group time trails ,Just time the hot laps.  Do not do hot laps and then time in groups.  That is like repeat and repeat.

I agree that the track is more important than the series.  Everyone has their own favorites. Two of my favorite tracks are Big Diamond and Port Royal. I would go to those tracks for a regular show over a series show at most tracks.  If only I lived in PA🙁

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4 hours ago, DowntheBackStretch said:

Im with you. Sitting there for a couple of hours and watching cars go round and round and round..... and then coming to the realization they they havent started racing yet!  Snoozefest!!!

What races are you going to that it takes 2 hours to run TT’s, the Indy 500????

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6 hours ago, jumper12a said:

What races are you going to that it takes 2 hours to run TT’s, the Indy 500????

Went to CanAm for SDS and the cars were on the track for 2 hours before they dropped the green for the first heat. Wasnt really a laughing matter to be honest. It was pitiful! Lol.

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2 hours ago, DowntheBackStretch said:

Went to CanAm for SDS and the cars were on the track for 2 hours before they dropped the green for the first heat. Wasnt really a laughing matter to be honest. It was pitiful! Lol.

So what you are attempting to admit, is that it happened to you once. I’m glad you were able to clarify that unimportant part of your story.

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5 hours ago, jumper12a said:

So what you are attempting to admit, is that it happened to you once. I’m glad you were able to clarify that unimportant part of your story.

Time trials never take more than 20 minutes total 95% of the time. They also make 95% of sds events boring and uneventful. Sometimes you will get good racing throughout the night, but usually the heats are not worth watching and the redraw cars might move around a few positions in the feature…..but you can normally guess the finishing order and be damn near correct. 
 

With that said, if your in the pits working on a racecar…..the night is never boring. It goes by much faster as there’s usually always something to do. Lots of teams would welcome new help…..so for all of those who can’t sit through time trials or think that there’s too many classes…….go make yourself useful to a raceteam and turn some wrenches. I guarantee the night goes by much faster with more excitement. 

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6 hours ago, jumper12a said:

So what you are attempting to admit, is that it happened to you once. I’m glad you were able to clarify that unimportant part of your story.

Admit? Not sure what you are getting at. I posted that I sat through hot laps and time trials and watched cars go around the track for 2 full hours at a Super Dirt Car Series event before I saw even one lap of actual racing.  I will see several Deyo shows this year and will probably see 1 or 2 SDS shows if I am hard up to see some racing. I just keep my fingers crossed it doesnt take that long to see an actual heat race again.  

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33 minutes ago, DowntheBackStretch said:

Admit? Not sure what you are getting at. I posted that I sat through hot laps and time trials and watched cars go around the track for 2 full hours at a Super Dirt Car Series event before I saw even one lap of actual racing.  I will see several Deyo shows this year and will probably see 1 or 2 SDS shows if I am hard up to see some racing. I just keep my fingers crossed it doesnt take that long to see an actual heat race again.  

You could always just arrive late and miss most of all the bs that the first hour entails at a sds show. 

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1 hour ago, rpm72x said:

Time trials never take more than 20 minutes total 95% of the time. They also make 95% of sds events boring and uneventful. Sometimes you will get good racing throughout the night, but usually the heats are not worth watching and the redraw cars might move around a few positions in the feature…..but you can normally guess the finishing order and be damn near correct. 
 

With that said, if your in the pits working on a racecar…..the night is never boring. It goes by much faster as there’s usually always something to do. Lots of teams would welcome new help…..so for all of those who can’t sit through time trials or think that there’s too many classes…….go make yourself useful to a raceteam and turn some wrenches. I guarantee the night goes by much faster with more excitement. 

 I enjoy watching the majority of the classes on the race track. That is exciting enough for me.  Therefore I do not really care to make the night go by faster.  If for some reason the show goes to 11pm or later? I just go to the parking lot, hotel ,or home.  On to the next one.   As a fan I have no issue doing that.  I can also show up and grab a seat at 8pm.

Now..... IF I was racing or helping out in the pits on a class that is running last in a 5plus division show? I would indeed be stuck there from hotlaps till after midnight. 

 

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16 minutes ago, rpm72x said:

You could always just arrive late and miss most of all the bs that the first hour entails at a sds show. 

Or get there early , put a blanket down in good seat. Head back out to the parking lot. Put some backstraps on the propane cooker.  And pop open a few cans of beer. 👍 

If time trials are that boring.   Listen to speaker inside.  And when practice and time trials are done ,go back in

EZ PZ JapanEZ ,😝

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3 hours ago, rpm72x said:

You could always just arrive late and miss most of all the bs that the first hour entails at a sds show. 

That is true, but I am particular about getting a good choice of an end seat because I like to move around. I dont like being boxed in and I get up a lot to walk around and watch the racing from different viewpoints. If I get there late all the end seats at most tracks for any events are already taken. 

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3 hours ago, leroy said:

Or get there early , put a blanket down in good seat. Head back out to the parking lot. Put some backstraps on the propane cooker.  And pop open a few cans of beer. 👍 

If time trials are that boring.   Listen to speaker inside.  And when practice and time trials are done ,go back in

EZ PZ JapanEZ ,😝

I like doing that when I know the show wont go til midnight.

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3 hours ago, DowntheBackStretch said:

That is true, but I am particular about getting a good choice of an end seat because I like to move around. I dont like being boxed in and I get up a lot to walk around and watch the racing from different viewpoints. If I get there late all the end seats at most tracks for any events are already taken. 

Perhaps investing in a cheap blanket and some bungee cords would benefit you?

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5 hours ago, DowntheBackStretch said:

That is true, but I am particular about getting a good choice of an end seat because I like to move around. I dont like being boxed in and I get up a lot to walk around and watch the racing from different viewpoints. If I get there late all the end seats at most tracks for any events are already taken. 

Well, unfortunately they do not cater many races to the guy that wants short hotlaps, no time trials, virtually no breaks, a perfect racetrack, multiple great seats and a completion time earlier than 10pm. I understand and agree with disliking time trials. I don’t like them both as a fan or team member, but it’s not because of the time they take. It’s only because they make for a boring show, dominated by the same handful of guys year after year. The teams that prefer them have very good reasons for doing so, but most of those teams have a solid group of guys that are ready for whatever gets thrown at them after hotlaps. I have a few good friends that don’t race sds races often, and part of that is because of the lack of crew help. If you have yourself and 1 person who goes with you, what’s the chances of being able to make virtually any changes of substance between hot laps and time trials? Virtually none. So you better unload and be good off the trailer.  It’s another benefit for the bigger teams, some of which have paid crew guys. The big teams have enough advantages…..take the poor draw 50% of the time and race your way in. 

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9 hours ago, DowntheBackStretch said:

Admit? Not sure what you are getting at. I posted that I sat through hot laps and time trials and watched cars go around the track for 2 full hours at a Super Dirt Car Series event before I saw even one lap of actual racing.  I will see several Deyo shows this year and will probably see 1 or 2 SDS shows if I am hard up to see some racing. I just keep my fingers crossed it doesnt take that long to see an actual heat race again.  

Was that SDS race during covid when the so called pits were only open? 

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