leroy Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, rpm72x said: Absolutely true…..although I’d argue there are more SLM teams that can win at any of the marquee events than any other type of racing. Davenport was amazing…..and seems to still be the man to beat, but for the 50-100 cars that show up to most of the huge SLM shows a higher percentage of them are considered threats. The Chili Bowl promotes on the number of participants…..but 10 out of 350 isn’t exactly a great number of guys that have a shot at winning. I agree on the super late models. I absolutely love super late model racing. It just sucks I need to travel so far to see them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroy Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 24 minutes ago, WheelsUpHammerDown10 said: The point is the claim of “anyone can win” or 100+ drivers can win is a complete fallacy. The car counts for the race are amazing. No doubt. But realistically 10-15 cars are the only one with a prayer of winning on Saturday. ok so what? 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJO Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, WheelsUpHammerDown10 said: The point is the claim of “anyone can win” or 100+ drivers can win is a complete fallacy. The car counts for the race are amazing. No doubt. But realistically 10-15 cars are the only one with a prayer of winning on Saturday. Isn’t it like that at all racetracks? There are only a certain amount of cars that have a chance to win. Don’t understand why you are making a fuss about this race when they’re all the same. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, rpm72x said: Absolutely true…..although I’d argue there are more SLM teams that can win at any of the marquee events than any other type of racing. Davenport was amazing…..and seems to still be the man to beat, but for the 50-100 cars that show up to most of the huge SLM shows a higher percentage of them are considered threats. The Chili Bowl promotes on the number of participants…..but 10 out of 350 isn’t exactly a great number of guys that have a shot at winning. Aside from Davenport, SLM’s likely are on the furthest end of the scale when it comes to disparity. SLM have two main draws (Lucas and WOO) which also have cross over. IMO if all the SLM teams were on one series and the same for sprints it would be similar. PA Posse is something pretty unique. Chilibowl is a breed of its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsUpHammerDown10 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, RJO said: Isn’t it like that at all racetracks? There are only a certain amount of cars that have a chance to win. Don’t understand why you are making a fuss about this race when they’re all the same. Because once again there are claims made by a Baumes that “anyone can win” and 100+ drivers can win the race when data and history show that is just simply not true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper12a Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, WheelsUpHammerDown10 said: Because once again there are claims made by a Baumes that “anyone can win” and 100+ drivers can win the race when data and history show that is just simply not true. I’ve never said “anyone can win”. That’s your nonsense. Are there at least 100 cars & drivers with the capabilities of winning the Chili Bowl, absolutely!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJO Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, WheelsUpHammerDown10 said: Because once again there are claims made by a Baumes that “anyone can win” and 100+ drivers can win the race when data and history show that is just simply not true. There is a thing called Chili Bowl luck. It really could happen to anyone on any given night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsUpHammerDown10 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 14 minutes ago, RJO said: There is a thing called Chili Bowl luck. It really could happen to anyone on any given night. The last 13 years beg to differ. 2022 Tanner Thorson 2021 Kyle Larson 2020 Kyle Larson 2019 Christopher Bell 2018 Christopher Bell 2017 Christopher Bell 2016 Rico Abreu 2015 Rico Abreu 2014 Bryan Clauson 2013 Kevin Swindell 2012 Kevin Swindell 2011 Kevin Swindell 2010 Kevin Swindell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Bayko Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Car counts are super overrated. Realistically, at any race there are 5-10 drivers that could conceivably win. Doesn’t matter if it’s out of 35 or 500 cars. Hundreds of cars just drag out the show unnecessarily. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 32 minutes ago, WheelsUpHammerDown10 said: The last 13 years beg to differ. 2022 Tanner Thorson 2021 Kyle Larson 2020 Kyle Larson 2019 Christopher Bell 2018 Christopher Bell 2017 Christopher Bell 2016 Rico Abreu 2015 Rico Abreu 2014 Bryan Clauson 2013 Kevin Swindell 2012 Kevin Swindell 2011 Kevin Swindell 2010 Kevin Swindell The last 8 were won by midget drivers. That says a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicklajoie Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 15 minutes ago, jwt said: The last 8 were won by midget drivers. That says a lot. Midget drivers means that's a small feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 44 minutes ago, Sicklajoie said: Midget drivers means that's a small feet. Huge feet to win a race with Rico,Larson and bell in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper12a Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, WheelsUpHammerDown10 said: The last 13 years beg to differ. 2022 Tanner Thorson 2021 Kyle Larson 2020 Kyle Larson 2019 Christopher Bell 2018 Christopher Bell 2017 Christopher Bell 2016 Rico Abreu 2015 Rico Abreu 2014 Bryan Clauson 2013 Kevin Swindell 2012 Kevin Swindell 2011 Kevin Swindell 2010 Kevin Swindell The last 10 Chili Bowls have been won by 6 different drivers. 5 drivers have won the last 10 Eastern States 200. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper12a Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Josh Bayko said: Car counts are super overrated. Realistically, at any race there are 5-10 drivers that could conceivably win. Doesn’t matter if it’s out of 35 or 500 cars. Hundreds of cars just drag out the show unnecessarily. A large car count with stars from many different racing disciplines is far more exciting than not. If someone feels that every car that pulls through the pit gate is adding to the “dragging out of the show”, they shouldn’t be at a racetrack. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, jumper12a said: The last 10 Chili Bowls have been won by 6 different drivers. 5 drivers have won the last 10 Eastern States 200. Yes…..and the number 1 complaint in all of modified racing is it’s stagnant as hell with the same guys winning constantly. The chili bowl is no different. Since 2010: 6 chili bowl winners…..roughly 350 entries/year world 100: 9 winners the dream: 9 winners firecracker 100: 10 winners silver dollar nationals: 9 winners SDW: 6 winners Knoxville nationals: 6 winners kings Royal: 9 winners I’d bet all these other races average about 1/3rd of the entries yearly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper12a Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, rpm72x said: Yes…..and the number 1 complaint in all of modified racing is it’s stagnant as hell with the same guys winning constantly. The chili bowl is no different. Since 2010: 6 chili bowl winners…..roughly 350 entries/year world 100: 9 winners the dream: 9 winners firecracker 100: 10 winners silver dollar nationals: 9 winners SDW: 6 winners That’s not a complaint at the Chili Bowl. They continue to shoehorn folks in here. It’s certainly not because it’s uncompetitive, it’s the most competitive event I’ve ever attended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, jumper12a said: That’s not a complaint at the Chili Bowl. They continue to shoehorn folks in here. It’s certainly not because it’s uncompetitive, it’s the most competitive event I’ve ever attended. It showcases lots of hard racing. It does not have a large group of guys that can win the event. That’s not to say it isn’t a great race…..great week or super popular. There’s just a ridiculous amount of zero shot field fillers before it narrows down to a star studded A main field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke81 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Comparing the Chili bowl to any other event just doesn't work, they're not the same thing. But both sides of the opinion are valid. I don't think more than maybe 15 entries have a real shot at winning any given year but I also don't think it matters in terms of the overall show presented at the Chili bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, luke81 said: Comparing the Chili bowl to any other event just doesn't work, they're not the same thing. But both sides of the opinion are valid. I don't think more than maybe 15 entries have a real shot at winning any given year but I also don't think it matters in terms of the overall show presented at the Chili bowl. I agree…..there’s nothing wrong with taking a week to weed out the 335 guys that have no shot at winning the race. It’s a spectacle. But let’s not make it seem like it’s the most competitive race in the country. Based off of results and entries…..it’s quite the opposite. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan dan Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, rpm72x said: I agree…..there’s nothing wrong with taking a week to weed out the 335 guys that have no shot at winning the race. It’s a spectacle. But let’s not make it seem like it’s the most competitive race in the country. Based off of results and entries…..it’s quite the opposite. Nah, super dirt week is with the massive amount of entries they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke81 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, rpm72x said: I agree…..there’s nothing wrong with taking a week to weed out the 335 guys that have no shot at winning the race. It’s a spectacle. But let’s not make it seem like it’s the most competitive race in the country. Based off of results and entries…..it’s quite the opposite. 100% agree, it's not the most competitive by far. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper12a Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, luke81 said: 100% agree, it's not the most competitive by far. And I respectfully disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper12a Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 On 1/12/2023 at 12:36 AM, jumper12a said: Monday 66 drew in. Tuesday 68 drew in. Wednesday 79 drew in. Total competitors for the week 365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottnorwood Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 After watching on and off all week I find the heat races a bit watered down on talent. Once they get to the main event each night though the talent and equipment is really strong. The racing at Vado has been decent so far as well. I have no complaints for the quality of dirt racing available to watch in the middle of January. It wasn’t like this 10-15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandStrunkRailroad Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 41 minutes ago, rpm72x said: I agree…..there’s nothing wrong with taking a week to weed out the 335 guys that have no shot at winning the race. It’s a spectacle. But let’s not make it seem like it’s the most competitive race in the country. Based off of results and entries…..it’s quite the opposite. I can understand both sides of the coin on this argument, not sure which side I actually fall on, but the CB is unique in the sense of the format, the collection of drivers from across various classes and the overall atmosphere of the event. I’m a relative newbie when it comes to the Chili Bowl, have only just discovered it a few years ago, but there’s no event like it, that grabbed my attention and captivates me for a week straight. Getting home from work, settling in for a night of racing, never knowing what craziness you might witness that night, upsetting the wife as she can’t get me to pay her any attention for that entire week and ultimately getting up Saturday morning, watching for this year’s soup run leading up to the ultimate winner some time early Sunday morning. It’s the Chili Bowl…plain and simple. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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