FightForTheRail Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, WheelsUpHammerDown10 said: Top 3 and four of top 5. Pretty good run. The down side is that now you will have to go fuck yourself for showing again how uncompetitive that race is. 😂 😉I am hoping next year that 150 drivers that could win the race show up. Jumper12A had 96.4 percent of the field and none of them finished in the top three. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMR Racing Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Personally the chili bowl management team should be embarrassed. Race winner banks 10k on a 6 night event but the 50/50 winner banks 5xs the winner. That should never happen. The week does have good racing and is exciting to watch.The atmosphere is outstanding and real cool. I don’t like how drivers just move each other out of the way just to pass most times. But you got to pass some how I give the chili bowl a C- only because I’m an owner and I spend a lot of money on race cars. if it paid 25k to win and money thru the C and B then my grade would be a A- Like I said before a lot of management people are walking out of there with a big smile laughing all the way to the bank. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger22 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 53 minutes ago, WMR Racing said: Personally the chili bowl management team should be embarrassed. Race winner banks 10k on a 6 night event but the 50/50 winner banks 5xs the winner. That should never happen. The week does have good racing and is exciting to watch.The atmosphere is outstanding and real cool. I don’t like how drivers just move each other out of the way just to pass most times. But you got to pass some how I give the chili bowl a C- only because I’m an owner and I spend a lot of money on race cars. if it paid 25k to win and money thru the C and B then my grade would be a A- Like I said before a lot of management people are walking out of there with a big smile laughing all the way to the bank. As true as this all is, the fact that they are drawing 350 plus cars and top drivers from almost every discipline of motorsports tells me that this won't be changing anytime soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottnorwood Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, WMR Racing said: Personally the chili bowl management team should be embarrassed. Race winner banks 10k on a 6 night event but the 50/50 winner banks 5xs the winner. That should never happen. The week does have good racing and is exciting to watch.The atmosphere is outstanding and real cool. I don’t like how drivers just move each other out of the way just to pass most times. But you got to pass some how I give the chili bowl a C- only because I’m an owner and I spend a lot of money on race cars. if it paid 25k to win and money thru the C and B then my grade would be a A- Like I said before a lot of management people are walking out of there with a big smile laughing all the way to the bank. Free market economics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I get it that there is a lot of racing. And also that everyone wants the best track possible. But I think if I actually attended, the amount of downtime would drive me absolutely nuts. It is frustrating enough trying to watch it at home. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottnorwood Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 16 hours ago, FightForTheRail said: The down side is that now you will have to go fuck yourself for showing again how uncompetitive that race is. 😂 😉I am hoping next year that 150 drivers that could win the race show up. Jumper12A had 96.4 percent of the field and none of them finished in the top three. After reading every post in this thread I still have no idea what the "picking 15 drivers" was supposed to prove. With 15 to go in the A main any of those top 3 could have won the race. Thats good enough for me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 If the purse was quadrupled it would have no effect on the crowd and little to none on car count. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJO Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, WMR Racing said: Personally the chili bowl management team should be embarrassed. Race winner banks 10k on a 6 night event but the 50/50 winner banks 5xs the winner. That should never happen. The week does have good racing and is exciting to watch.The atmosphere is outstanding and real cool. I don’t like how drivers just move each other out of the way just to pass most times. But you got to pass some how I give the chili bowl a C- only because I’m an owner and I spend a lot of money on race cars. if it paid 25k to win and money thru the C and B then my grade would be a A- Like I said before a lot of management people are walking out of there with a big smile laughing all the way to the bank. First off the 50/50 was that high because the total amount paid out was from ticket sales from all week. They had a drawing every night that paid $1000 to the winner. Second management had nothing to do with the 50/50 it was for a benefit. Second you have no idea how much it must cost to put this show on. You can walk into the place every night and you would never know that anyone was in the stands the night before. The place is spotless. Even the area between the racetrack and the stands, all the clay tossed out there is cleaned up. They have security to pay, people at the pit gate, people at the fan entrance. I could go on and on. I guess if you got a better mouse trap bring it on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsUpHammerDown10 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 8 minutes ago, scottnorwood said: After reading every post in this thread I still have no idea what the "picking 15 drivers" was supposed to prove. With 15 to go in the A main any of those top 3 could have won the race. Thats good enough for me. Because Baumes claims that 100 different drivers can win the Chili Bowl and before a lap was even turned of the most “competitive” race in the country, someone could identify 10 drivers of a group of 13 that ended up making the A Main. The parity that is referred to just isn’t there. The race can be exciting and there were great moments. But at the end of the day, it literally comes down to about 10-15 drivers that have a shot to win the race, not 100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, RJO said: First off the 50/50 was that high because the total amount paid out was from ticket sales from all week. They had a drawing every night that paid $1000 to the winner. Second management had nothing to do with the 50/50 it was for a benefit. Second you have no idea how much it must cost to put this show on. You can walk into the place every night and you would never know that anyone was in the stands the night before. The place is spotless. Even the area between the racetrack and the stands, all the clay tossed out there is cleaned up. They have security to pay, people at the pit gate, people at the fan entrance. I could go on and on. I guess if you got a better mouse trap bring it on. 50/50 was open to anyone in Oklahoma not just those in attendance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJO Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 10 minutes ago, jwt said: 50/50 was open to anyone in Oklahoma not just those in attendance. That is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 58 minutes ago, scottnorwood said: Free market economics. Absolutely. Don’t blame them for keeping the purse low…..can’t blame guys for not wanting to race for it. Works for everyone involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightForTheRail Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, scottnorwood said: After reading every post in this thread I still have no idea what the "picking 15 drivers" was supposed to prove. With 15 to go in the A main any of those top 3 could have won the race. Thats good enough for me. The whole 100 drivers can win BS or that the Chili Bowl is some amazingly competitive race is silly. The race draws 365 drivers and 95+ percent of them have no hope. The picking 10-15 cars came about last year because jumper12A continues to die on the hill that 100 drivers can win that race -- and even casual Midget fans can easily debunk that claim. There is no other race in the country where the field is as filled with jam cars and no hopers as the Chili Bowl. That is ok, but don't claim how competitive the race is when that is obviously not the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, ranger22 said: As true as this all is, the fact that they are drawing 350 plus cars and top drivers from almost every discipline of motorsports tells me that this won't be changing anytime soon. Does it really draw the top drivers across the racing disciplines? This year? No Larson or Bell……No Kyle Busch……No Tony Stewart…..no Brad sweet, Donny Schatz or David Gravel. No Johnathon Davenport, Brandon Sheppard or Brandon Overton. No Stewart Friesen or Matt Sheppard. The list goes on of household names that were not there. I’m assuming all the big names in midget and non wing sprint car racing attend…..but they are nowhere near the top divisions in dirt racing on a national level. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 If you are more known for your efforts in the Chili Bowl……you are not a top driver in the racing world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottnorwood Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, WheelsUpHammerDown10 said: Because Baumes claims that 100 different drivers can win the Chili Bowl and before a lap was even turned of the most “competitive” race in the country, someone could identify 10 drivers of a group of 13 that ended up making the A Main. The parity that is referred to just isn’t there. The race can be exciting and there were great moments. But at the end of the day, it literally comes down to about 10-15 drivers that have a shot to win the race, not 100. Well technically everyone there has a shot to win the chili bowl. You are just saying it’s easier to identify the 15 that have the best odds to win? Ok. Seems like you guys enjoy the argument more than you enjoy the racing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJO Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 53 minutes ago, rpm72x said: Does it really draw the top drivers across the racing disciplines? This year? No Larson or Bell……No Kyle Busch……No Tony Stewart…..no Brad sweet, Donny Schatz or David Gravel. No Johnathon Davenport, Brandon Sheppard or Brandon Overton. No Stewart Friesen or Matt Sheppard. The list goes on of household names that were not there. I’m assuming all the big names in midget and non wing sprint car racing attend…..but they are nowhere near the top divisions in dirt racing on a national level. The race went on without those you named. Still had 365 different drivers that raced. I don’t think that by them not being there it hurt attendance one bit at all. Other then Monday and Tuesday the place had great attendance and was packed on Friday and Saturday. The boo birds that cried about the purse didn’t end up getting the following that maybe they thought they would get. They didn’t need them there, it was a great week of racing and looking forward to next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottnorwood Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, FightForTheRail said: The whole 100 drivers can win BS or that the Chili Bowl is some amazingly competitive race is silly. The race draws 365 drivers and 95+ percent of them have no hope. The picking 10-15 cars came about last year because jumper12A continues to die on the hill that 100 drivers can win that race -- and even casual Midget fans can easily debunk that claim. There is no other race in the country where the field is as filled with jam cars and no hopers as the Chili Bowl. That is ok, but don't claim how competitive the race is when that is obviously not the case. The only other dirt circle track that draws around the same number of entries is IMCA SuperNationals at Boone. When you have that many entries the field is going to have a wide distribution of performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 45 minutes ago, RJO said: The race went on without those you named. Still had 365 different drivers that raced. I don’t think that by them not being there it hurt attendance one bit at all. Other then Monday and Tuesday the place had great attendance and was packed on Friday and Saturday. The boo birds that cried about the purse didn’t end up getting the following that maybe they thought they would get. They didn’t need them there, it was a great week of racing and looking forward to next year. It may not have hurt them…..if that trend continues it will. But that’s here nor there. The racing may be better without those names……but don’t falsely advertise. There’s not 100 drivers with a shot at winning and it’s not the biggest names in all of racing. It’s a week long event with lots of hard racing and action. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsUpHammerDown10 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 47 minutes ago, scottnorwood said: The only other dirt circle track that draws around the same number of entries is IMCA SuperNationals at Boone. When you have that many entries the field is going to have a wide distribution of performance. How many different winners for the IMCA SuperNationals in the last 15 years and how many differemt guys made the A main every year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJO Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 26 minutes ago, rpm72x said: It may not have hurt them…..if that trend continues it will. But that’s here nor there. The racing may be better without those names……but don’t falsely advertise. There’s not 100 drivers with a shot at winning and it’s not the biggest names in all of racing. It’s a week long event with lots of hard racing and action. I didn’t see it advertised anywhere that there were 100 drivers with a shot at winning. Someone may have quoted that but it was not advertised. If those drivers you named continue to not support so be it the show will go on without them and they will continue to draw large crowds of fans. There will continue to be many of the top names from all sorts of motorsports that will show up and try and win the Well Driller Trophy. You don’t need them all there to put on the show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, rpm72x said: Does it really draw the top drivers across the racing disciplines? This year? No Larson or Bell……No Kyle Busch……No Tony Stewart…..no Brad sweet, Donny Schatz or David Gravel. No Johnathon Davenport, Brandon Sheppard or Brandon Overton. No Stewart Friesen or Matt Sheppard. The list goes on of household names that were not there. I’m assuming all the big names in midget and non wing sprint car racing attend…..but they are nowhere near the top divisions in dirt racing on a national level. Of all the disciplines you referenced they each were represented by top drivers with maybe the exception of north east modifieds. What race is more diverse? Non wing drivers drivers are most certainly near the top on a national level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightForTheRail Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, rpm72x said: It may not have hurt them…..if that trend continues it will. But that’s here nor there. The racing may be better without those names……but don’t falsely advertise. There’s not 100 drivers with a shot at winning and it’s not the biggest names in all of racing. It’s a week long event with lots of hard racing and action. The 100 drivers with a shot at winning isn't Chili Bowl advertising. That is a jumper12a claim and then gets mad and tells people to fuck themselves when shown how ridiculous the claim is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper12a Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 There are easily 100 drivers on that entry list that have the ability to win that race. The car quality is unmatched. Every year the equipment level in that building rises. More & more teams step up their game each & every year. There were at least 150 first class cars this year. Until you’ve been there and seen everything first hand, you have no argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 hours ago, FightForTheRail said: The 100 drivers with a shot at winning isn't Chili Bowl advertising. That is a jumper12a claim and then gets mad and tells people to fuck themselves when shown how ridiculous the claim is. I agree. It’s the huge fans of the chili bowl that attempt to cast these ideas. Maybe they have to justify spending a whole week there to watch the same 12 cars year after year battle it out for the trophy. But it’s a false claim. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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