High Limit 410 Series Schedule

[WheelsUpHammerDown10]

Schedule has been being released the last three days, three at a time and today we got our first “Eastern” races and how about GRANDVIEW getting in there and sniping a date. I didn’t see that one coming at all.

That’s going to be a must see race.

Lernerville also has a date.

3 more dates to go. Have to imagine Eldora might be in the last bunch. No Port Royal and maybe it won’t make it. Can’t imagine there are more than 2-3 PA dates.

[jumper12a]

1 minute ago, WheelsUpHammerDown10 said:

Schedule has been being released the last three days, three at a time and today we got our first “Eastern” races and how about GRANDVIEW getting in there and sniping a date. I didn’t see that one coming at all.

That’s going to be a must see race.

Lernerville also has a date.

3 more dates to go. Have to imagine Eldora might be in the last bunch. No Port Royal and maybe it won’t make it. Can’t imagine there are more than 2-3 PA dates.

Eldora doesn’t need this series, they have a million dollar race of their own.

[con7]

They appear to be following the outlaws around with all their events in the general vicinity of WoO events. Assuming the rest of the races are in October, that would mean at least one more race in the vicinity of Central Pa, and one more race in the Midwest. It would be cool if they would be a part of SDW and have a race at Utica Rome on that Tuesday between the National Open and Oswego 200 but I’d imagine they would keep it in PA. 

[jumper12a]

Now that the full 12 race schedule is out, I’m really curious to see how this plays out over the course of 2023. This schedule is built around the WoO schedule & their rules in order to attract WoO teams to compete. My curiosity ramps up when you consider the possibility of a couple weather delayed events. They don’t really have the ability to run the next day in many cases, due to the WoO contract restrictions. It will be very difficult to schedule at a later date. Do they scrap them altogether? It will be interesting how Kyle & Brad handle these situations.

 

[robracer]

21 minutes ago, jumper12a said:

Now that the full 12 race schedule is out, I’m really curious to see how this plays out over the course of 2023. This schedule is built around the WoO schedule & their rules in order to attract WoO teams to compete. My curiosity ramps up when you consider the possibility of a couple weather delayed events. They don’t really have the ability to run the next day in many cases, due to the WoO contract restrictions. It will be very difficult to schedule at a later date. Do they scrap them altogether? It will be interesting how Kyle & Brad handle these situations.

 

It will certainly be interesting. The All Stars only have 1 conflicting date. I'd think the 50k races are appealing to the WoO regulars

[leroy]

53 minutes ago, jumper12a said:

Now that the full 12 race schedule is out, I’m really curious to see how this plays out over the course of 2023. This schedule is built around the WoO schedule & their rules in order to attract WoO teams to compete. My curiosity ramps up when you consider the possibility of a couple weather delayed events. They don’t really have the ability to run the next day in many cases, due to the WoO contract restrictions. It will be very difficult to schedule at a later date. Do they scrap them altogether? It will be interesting how Kyle & Brad handle these situations.

 

Who/what does not have the ability to run the next day? A High Limit event could have a rain date without WoO teams. The High Limit Series has run races without WoO teams before . 

[leroy]

29 minutes ago, robracer said:

It will certainly be interesting. The All Stars only have 1 conflicting date. I'd think the 50k races are appealing to the WoO regulars

I like the Lernerville date. I have never been to Lernerville. And that time of year is usually a road trip for me. Hopefully I can make it happen.

[luke81]

15 minutes ago, leroy said:

Who/what does not have the ability to run the next day? A High Limit event could have a rain date without WoO teams. The High Limit Series has run races without WoO teams before . 

You're totally right, but I don't know if that's sustainable overall.  If people buy tickets planning to see 8 or 10 WoO cars then they don't, people could get grouchy.  It'll be interesting to see who decides to hit these races and who doesn't though.   

[leroy]

6 minutes ago, luke81 said:

You're totally right, but I don't know if that's sustainable overall.  If people buy tickets planning to see 8 or 10 WoO cars then they don't, people could get grouchy.  It'll be interesting to see who decides to hit these races and who doesn't though.   

I understand that.  Just saying when High Limit scheduled races in 2022 they did not worry about who had contracts or who did not.  I am thinking the High Limit series would be racing in 2023 regardless of WRG easing some of their restrictions? Contracts do effect certain race teams.  But High Limit does not need permission fro WoO to schedule.

[jumper12a]

44 minutes ago, leroy said:

Who/what does not have the ability to run the next day? A High Limit event could have a rain date without WoO teams. The High Limit Series has run races without WoO teams before . 

Where did I state they had to have WoO drivers???? If you think they are planning this entire schedule without them in mind, you are more ignorant than I imagined. Of course there could be an opportunity to hold a makeup date that would conflict, but that’s certainly not their intent. As I already said once, it will be interesting to see how they handle this. Especially if it were to happen during the second half of the season and a WoO guy were leading the points.

[scottnorwood]

I like the track selection. The WoO thing boils down to if WRG allows contract drivers race without penalty. Has anyone heard anything on that?

[jumper12a]

3 minutes ago, scottnorwood said:

I like the track selection. The WoO thing boils down to if WRG allows contract drivers race without penalty. Has anyone heard anything on that?

https://worldofoutlaws.com/sprintcars/more-than-1-7-million-available-in-2023-between-bonus-program-points-fund/

[leroy]

17 minutes ago, jumper12a said:

Where did I state they had to have WoO drivers???? If you think they are planning this entire schedule without them in mind, you are more ignorant than I imagined. Of course there could be an opportunity to hold a makeup date that would conflict, but that’s certainly not their intent. As I already said once, it will be interesting to see how they handle this. Especially if it were to happen during the second half of the season and a WoO guy were leading the points.

I replied to your post in which you said that 'they 'do not have the ability to run the next day in many cases. I assume you meant the High Limit Series?

Now this post you say something different.   ok.  

whatever.🙄

High Limit did schedule races in 2022 without worrying about who or who did not have contracts.  And High Limit was going to schedule races in 2023 regardless of whether or not WRG caved and eased up some of their restrictions. 

No? 

 

[jumper12a]

Just now, leroy said:

I replied to your post in which you said that 'they 'do not have the ability to run the next day in many cases. I assume you mean the High Limit Series?

Now this post you say something different.   ok.  

whatever.🙄

High Limit did scheduled races in 2022 without worrying about who or who did not have contracts.  And High Limit was going to schedule races in 2023 regardless of whether or not WRG eased up any of their restrictions.  No? 

 

Because like you always do, you completely twisted my words into something else, even though I know you knew exactly what I was saying. I shouldn’t be surprised though, it’s what you do.

[leroy]

2 minutes ago, jumper12a said:

Because like you always do, you completely twisted my words into something else, even though I know you knew exactly what I was saying. I shouldn’t be surprised though, it’s what you do.

twisted what?   you typed the shit

[jumper12a]

Just now, leroy said:

twisted what?   you typed the shit

Yet robracer understood exactly what I meant……………

[racermurray]

2 hours ago, jumper12a said:

Because like you always do, you completely twisted my words into something else, even though I know you knew exactly what I was saying. I shouldn’t be surprised though, it’s what you do.

Now your picking on Leroy ? Give me a break .

It amazes me that the moderators allow you to stay on this forum . 

Is it your goal in life to belittle and criticize everyone you possibly can ?

Does your inferiority complex cause you to be a narcissist or does your narcissism cause you to have an inferiority complex ?     Great question for a psychologist .

They other day you said something about me not knowing you ? The regulars on this forum  all know you and know what your all about as we have been reading your posts for years .

[WMR Racing]

3 hours ago, jumper12a said:

Where did I state they had to have WoO drivers???? If you think they are planning this entire schedule without them in mind, you are more ignorant than I imagined. Of course there could be an opportunity to hold a makeup date that would conflict, but that’s certainly not their intent. As I already said once, it will be interesting to see how they handle this. Especially if it were to happen during the second half of the season and a WoO guy were leading the points.

I personally think Kyle doesn’t give 2 shits who shows up. Woo, Allstars, PA, NY I don’t think he cares.  Hes doing it for the love of the sport just like Tony putting up a million bucks 2 years in a row and piggy backing with his highest crown jewel!!  Get over that the woo are the best in the world or the all stars are the best.  These guys are putting up huge money and we should applaud them for what they are doing.  

[jumper12a]

57 minutes ago, racermurray said:

Now your picking on Leroy ? Give me a break .

It amazes me that the moderators allow you to stay on this forum . 

Is it your goal in life to belittle and criticize everyone you possibly can ?

Does your inferiority complex cause you to be a narcissist or does your narcissism cause you to have an inferiority complex ?     Great question for a psychologist .

They other day you said something about me not knowing you ? The regulars on this forum  all know you and know what your all about as we have been reading your posts for years .

If you say so, it must be true.

[jumper12a]

26 minutes ago, WMR Racing said:

I personally think Kyle doesn’t give 2 shits who shows up. Woo, Allstars, PA, NY I don’t think he cares.  Hes doing it for the love of the sport just like Tony putting up a million bucks 2 years in a row and piggy backing with his highest crown jewel!!  Get over that the woo are the best in the world or the all stars are the best.  These guys are putting up huge money and we should applaud them for what they are doing.  

I’m pretty sure Kyle & Brad are doing this to make money.

[scottnorwood]

1 hour ago, racermurray said:

Now your picking on Leroy ? Give me a break .

It amazes me that the moderators allow you to stay on this forum . 

Is it your goal in life to belittle and criticize everyone you possibly can ?

Does your inferiority complex cause you to be a narcissist or does your narcissism cause you to have an inferiority complex ?     Great question for a psychologist .

They other day you said something about me not knowing you ? The regulars on this forum  all know you and know what your all about as we have been reading your posts for years .

I have grown to enjoy reading Jumper12a's posts. Sure, he is a contrarian at some level but someone who disagrees with me about dirt racing doesn't bother me much.

The guy is in love with WRG and the Chili Bowl....it's OK. Everyone has their thing. 

 

[WMR Racing]

10 minutes ago, jumper12a said:

I’m pretty sure Kyle & Brad are doing this to make money.

Obviously!!!  But you don’t need woo drivers to put on a good show.  Not 1 single woo driver shows up for ESS and they get a good crowd around NY and put on some good racing.  They have set the schedule and the pay outs with not 1 single woo driver saying they will be at any show.  Which to me means they don’t care if any woo drivers show up. 

[leroy]

1 hour ago, WMR Racing said:

I personally think Kyle doesn’t give 2 shits who shows up. Woo, Allstars, PA, NY I don’t think he cares.  Hes doing it for the love of the sport just like Tony putting up a million bucks 2 years in a row and piggy backing with his highest crown jewel!!  Get over that the woo are the best in the world or the all stars are the best.  These guys are putting up huge money and we should applaud them for what they are doing.  

Kyle and Brad did not give two shits who had a WoO contract or who did not in 2022.  And they do not give two shits in 2023 either. 

It is like I already posted, regardless of whether or not WoO changed the terms of their contracts for this season,the High Limit Series was going to schedule races in 2023 .  And contrary to some opinions, not everyone cares if all the WoO teams show up. 

Seems to me that the High Limit Series dictates what the WoO does.  Not the other way around.

Would the WoO contract driver terms have been changed for 2023 without the High Limit events being scheduled?   I highly doubt it 

[jumper12a]

17 minutes ago, WMR Racing said:

Obviously!!!  But you don’t need woo drivers to put on a good show.  Not 1 single woo driver shows up for ESS and they get a good crowd around NY and put on some good racing.  They have set the schedule and the pay outs with not 1 single woo driver saying they will be at any show.  Which to me means they don’t care if any woo drivers show up. 

Again, show me where I said they “need” WoO drivers in order to put on a good show. I’ll help you out, you can’t. But I’m smart enough to know that WoO drivers sell tickets, and so are they.

[jumper12a]

1 hour ago, scottnorwood said:

I have grown to enjoy reading Jumper12a's posts. Sure, he is a contrarian at some level but someone who disagrees with me about dirt racing doesn't bother me much.

The guy is in love with WRG and the Chili Bowl....it's OK. Everyone has their thing. 

 

I do love motorsports in general. Non-Wing racing is my favorite, for sure. I do have friends at WRG, absolutely, but that doesn’t mean they do everything right in my views. That’s a perception that folks here created. Nobody is perfect. Having said that, I enjoy pushing people’s buttons. People who actually know me well, know I like to stir the pot, sit back and watch’em go! Maybe that doesn’t always translate well on the internet lol. I think most people would say I’m really not a bad dude lol, I’m just passionate.