chas71 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 hours ago, Sicklajoie said: During COVID Stafford had their own streaming channel. NA$CAR wanted a piece of that pie, so Stafford dumped NA$CAR and hooked up with Flo. The point funds and purses have gone up since then. FLO contributes 40K to the Stafford point fund. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancoh Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 10 hours ago, leroy said: CVD has made some money off of the NASCAR deal. No? YES YES and YES gview regularly gets good NASCAR money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRooster Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 11 hours ago, Jack Brady said: I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't an Eastern States this year. If they even make it through the season. Deyo's STSS, DIRT, and Eastern States Weekend are already scheduled. What happens in between is the big question. OCFS attracts a ton of quality sportsmen teams, and they always put on a great show. Also, the pro stocks are arguably the best show there, more than just a few races end with "under a blanket" finishes. And at the risk of repeating myself, I will never understand, much less accept, the bewildering extravagance on improvements (some questionable at best) at the expense of the "elephant in the room", the track's surface. Just what in the hell were they thinking? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsUpHammerDown10 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Deyo taking Utica Rome, Fonda and Georgetown NASCAR certainly seems very plausible given the announcement on social media scheduled for tomorrow pertaining to all three tracks he operates…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicklajoie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2023 Middletown schedule released today. 17 race schedule Specials are STSS, SDS and ESW. With the remaining 14 shows, 6 have big blocks, 6 have 358s, all have sportsman, rookie sportsman and street stocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderSpeed78 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Sicklajoie said: 2023 Middletown schedule released today. 17 race schedule Specials are STSS, SDS and ESW. With the remaining 14 shows, 6 have big blocks, 6 have 358s, all have sportsman, rookie sportsman and street stocks. sounds like that Halmar money is gone. Cant pay a purse that supports the BB's and Sb's Guess its good that they are racing this year, but i bet this schedule sours the locals that still went. Really no opening night BB?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Brady Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 If OCFS has more then 50 people in the stands I'll be shocked. Car counts were never a problem, but the weekly fan base has pretty much given up on OCFS. Will be interesting to see which big blocks show up for races that aren't STSS or SDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroy Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 hours ago, Sicklajoie said: 2023 Middletown schedule released today. 17 race schedule Specials are STSS, SDS and ESW. With the remaining 14 shows, 6 have big blocks, 6 have 358s, all have sportsman, rookie sportsman and street stocks. Were the pay outs announced ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRooster Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 21 hours ago, ThunderSpeed78 said: sounds like that Halmar money is gone. Cant pay a purse that supports the BB's and Sb's That show with $100K to win was plain nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicknell1 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 #1 and #5 intrigue me. #1. So BDR tracks are going NASCAR, does that attract or detour teams with added expense, but having that insurance helps. #5. Having to purchase NASCAR licence ,would make sense to go to Fonda to protect that extra expense. Will that be enough to get more teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Being Nascar sanctioned may add a cost in the form of licensing……which dirtcar requires as well, but it also opens up other point fund possibilities for drivers as well that Utica and Fonda did not previously have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJO Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 55 minutes ago, rpm72x said: Being Nascar sanctioned may add a cost in the form of licensing……which dirtcar requires as well, but it also opens up other point fund possibilities for drivers as well that Utica and Fonda did not previously have. If memory serves me correct Utica Rome ran under NASCAR for many years when it was dirt before Deyo. This was supposedly one of the reasons for the lower cars counts there because of having to get a NASCAR license to run there and a DirtCar license to run at almost all the other tracks up there. Be interesting to see if it helps or hurts car counts at either or both tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 38 minutes ago, RJO said: If memory serves me correct Utica Rome ran under NASCAR for many years when it was dirt before Deyo. This was supposedly one of the reasons for the lower cars counts there because of having to get a NASCAR license to run there and a DirtCar license to run at almost all the other tracks up there. Be interesting to see if it helps or hurts car counts at either or both tracks. Does not seem to hurt Grandview 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Brady Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Wasn't Friesen's Outlaw circuit NASCAR sanctioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm72x Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, RJO said: If memory serves me correct Utica Rome ran under NASCAR for many years when it was dirt before Deyo. This was supposedly one of the reasons for the lower cars counts there because of having to get a NASCAR license to run there and a DirtCar license to run at almost all the other tracks up there. Be interesting to see if it helps or hurts car counts at either or both tracks. Utica struggled because sundays do not work in CNY. On top of that…..they changed rules and jumped between being dirtcar or independent then went to spec heads. Weather didn’t cooperate for years which made it tough as well. Most teams seem to like finding 2 tracks with the same rules package and make them “home”. This goes for modified and sportsman teams. Utica found themselves on an island at times, maybe attempting to hold on to what made it so successful years ago. That won’t work today. Having sister tracks on Friday and Saturdays is the way to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulbrew Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Jack Brady said: Wasn't Friesen's Outlaw circuit NASCAR sanctioned? Not sure, but at least some of Kingsley's time was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyfan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I apologize if this is a stupid question…do drivers now need a NASCAR license to race at these track? If the answer is yes do they need one if they plan to just race these tracks even just one time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That IQ0 Car Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) There was an interview with Deyo live on Facebook around noon today. He laid out the different licenses available. I think he said there was an option or drivers who wanted to run once or twice and if I recall that was $25. Only drivers need licenses and modified, prostock and sportsmen all had different rates. Edit: link to the interview https://m.facebook.com/video.php/?video_id=879387733373125 Edited January 22 by That IQ0 Car Found Missing link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeronbreath Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, DaRooster said: That show with $100K to win was plain nuts. One of the most memorable nights ever. I remember paying $65 for my reserved seat that night. It was well worth the long drive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJO Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, leroy said: Does not seem to hurt Grandview Leroy Grandview is a totally different story. Grandview has a bunch of guys that only run at Grandview. They don’t have to worry about having you or three different clubs or organizations to join to race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJO Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 hours ago, rpm72x said: Utica struggled because sundays do not work in CNY. On top of that…..they changed rules and jumped between being dirtcar or independent then went to spec heads. Weather didn’t cooperate for years which made it tough as well. Most teams seem to like finding 2 tracks with the same rules package and make them “home”. This goes for modified and sportsman teams. Utica found themselves on an island at times, maybe attempting to hold on to what made it so successful years ago. That won’t work today. Having sister tracks on Friday and Saturdays is the way to go. But you didn’t answer what I said was that I thought that they were with NASCAR a few years and it didn’t help them any by being the lone track in the area with them. We all know the story about the bad weather not helping them any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamaranger23 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, RJO said: But you didn’t answer what I said was that I thought that they were with NASCAR a few years and it didn’t help them any by being the lone track in the area with them. We all know the story about the bad weather not helping them any. Things can change, ya know. Just because the deal X years ago wasn't good enough for UR doesn't mean the deal this winter was the same. At least for the last 2–3 years, NASCAR has been adding more tracks to their weekly series than they lost. They seem to have a more compelling offer these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillSmith Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The Outlaw Circuit under Alex Friesen (Fulton, Utica-Rome) was NASCAR for a few years (mid-90s), Dale Planck made a boat load of point fund money. Awesome racing, too!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas71 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 hours ago, valleyfan said: I apologize if this is a stupid question…do drivers now need a NASCAR license to race at these track? If the answer is yes do they need one if they plan to just race these tracks even just one time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas71 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 hours ago, That IQ0 Car said: There was an interview with Deyo live on Facebook around noon today. He laid out the different licenses available. I think he said there was an option or drivers who wanted to run once or twice and if I recall that was $25. Only drivers need licenses and modified, prostock and sportsmen all had different rates. Edit: link to the interview https://m.facebook.com/video.php/?video_id=879387733373125 That's interesting, I always thought you needed a nascar license to get in the pits at nascar tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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